Catastrophic warning about the fate of humanity is given by 15,000 scientists who claim human destruction of the natural world will lead to 'misery' and an 'irretrievably mutilated' planet. 15,000 scientists signed this in 1992 and then again in 2017.

There's literally no point for people to waste their time propagating this hoax. There's no benefit. That's how you know it's not a hoax. Nothing is gained from these scientists who claim this. They're saying it because they've spend their entire life faced with irrefutable evidence of the reality of climate change. And people will still just go, "nah, hoax".

@machtyn I mean, what the fuck matters? Nothing. We eat, shit, sleep, fuck, die. Everything else is just what we fill our time with. I'm fascinated by this issue and I will be until the end. One of the most fascinating parts if the sheer amount of people who deny it in the face of overwhelming evidence. Because nothing is more reality shattering to their future plans than this.

Overwhelming evidence is what you base your argument on, but what about the FACTS?

The fact is they cant prove it, they just think based solely on evidence which has been debunked already

At this point we will have to agree to disagree

You literally said nothing.

@Sam Amari Again, I disagree. A lot of these scientists are or are being used to push socialism. There is a benefit and a cost to every fucking thing.

jfc

I made my point previously already

@Sam Amari I suggest finding solutions if you're truly this excited about it.

There are not solutions to everything

I personally am not knowledgeable enough in physics to truly assist. I honestly have been debating going to a community college to take advanced physics and static among other classes.

True!

Global temperature rise

Warming oceans

Glacial retreat

Shrinking ice-sheets

Decreased snow cover

Sea level rise

Declining Arctic sea ice

Extreme events (hurricanes/fires/droughts)

Ocean acidification

All of those are easily factually proven with a google search

Agreed.

How do we truly change it though?

The people who want to apply taxes are the same people taking jets talking about global warming as a day job.

@Sam Amari Like if these people TRULY cared about the climate why don't they just Skype?

Why do you need to fly 10+ times a year to discuss the decline of the climate.

Almost everyone alive is a hypocrite in that sense

Like every sports team flies around 150 times a year on a private jet

Yeah... like... I personally never fly because I truly do want to affect change. I drove 2 days to visit friends on west coast instead of flying.

And how would you hold them to account?

yeah

@Rhunespire Taxes

Yeah, but I'm a fatalist about this shit. You're not going to affect anything personally even if you flew every single day

In the 1970's all the "scientists" and experts were telling us "we are going into an ice age, the USA had better wake up.......there will be food wars, a billion people could die....this was all going to happen by 1990

Increase taxes too much and the people will revolt

Ah man. I was hoping you weren't a denier Mod

so....before humans.....when the earth did have climate change....and were not around to cause it....................how did it happen????

I am skeptic