I'm thinking 2100+

only for awhile you got this shit bro

@Sam Amari yes, but you can actually control that MORE than the fucking global warming issue

I'm a slave to my medical issues and the cost of keeping me alive in American healthcare

You're not a slave.

You can become a citizen of another country.

@machtyn Just because I'm talking about the global warming issue doesn't mean I need to have control over it

aight im watching a movie with some guys on tfms server

Or you can earn bank and pay what you need.

@Sam Amari again. i dont mean to cause any hard feelings by disagreeing with you. hope were good

@Sam Amari No, I agree. Aren't you angry to waste time on topics you cannot actually control instead of directing that focus on things you can control?

it's alright, the next 20 years will prove my point better than anything ill type out

@shadowlessnexus Link?

@Sam Amari Truth.

@machtyn waste time? i dont think its a waste of time to be informed about the future. i think these fools that are stuck in optimism bias and "technology will solve all our problems" are the ones that are screwed

they talk about me drinking the kool-aid. rich. the only people who in serious numbers deny climate change are American right-wing voters.

There are no serious contingents of climate change deniers in any serious political party outside the USA with the exception of Brazil who is about to elect an absolute personification of evil who will just allow them to keep absolutely raping the rainforest

if you are proven right i will freely admit it

i do have a lot of personal issues to sort out but that doesn't mean i'm going to not chime in when i see some MGTOW climate deniers

i dont care about winning. i care about reality and whats real

@shadowlessnexus nothing is going to convince you. you've discredited everything ive posted.

@Sam Amari I agree that you should know the future as you can. I would consider myself more "right wing" in finance but very left-wing everywhere else. I think climate change is something we should seriously address in the economy but within reason... like when we subsidized corn/wheat/beans it seriously fucked the planet too. If we returned to NATURAL NON-soil stripping farming... it would be amazing. YES, it means we wouldn't have as much food but holy shit look how obese we are?

yea. and thats fine.

regardless of anything. other people can benefit from our discussion

so you think the 15,000 scientists who wrote the letter of humanity are just puppets?

anyway the movie is gonna start soon

Yes

ill be back later

See ya shadow

@Sam Amari I wasn't trying to SILENCE you using your personal issues. Don't misread that. I personally just hate getting hot and bothered by an issue that I can't control and spend SO MUCH ENERGY on it to realize.. it doesn't fucking matter. Then again, what does? I've realized only what I truly controls does.

Catastrophic warning about the fate of humanity is given by 15,000 scientists who claim human destruction of the natural world will lead to 'misery' and an 'irretrievably mutilated' planet. 15,000 scientists signed this in 1992 and then again in 2017.

There's literally no point for people to waste their time propagating this hoax. There's no benefit. That's how you know it's not a hoax. Nothing is gained from these scientists who claim this. They're saying it because they've spend their entire life faced with irrefutable evidence of the reality of climate change. And people will still just go, "nah, hoax".

@machtyn I mean, what the fuck matters? Nothing. We eat, shit, sleep, fuck, die. Everything else is just what we fill our time with. I'm fascinated by this issue and I will be until the end. One of the most fascinating parts if the sheer amount of people who deny it in the face of overwhelming evidence. Because nothing is more reality shattering to their future plans than this.

Overwhelming evidence is what you base your argument on, but what about the FACTS?

The fact is they cant prove it, they just think based solely on evidence which has been debunked already

At this point we will have to agree to disagree

You literally said nothing.

@Sam Amari Again, I disagree. A lot of these scientists are or are being used to push socialism. There is a benefit and a cost to every fucking thing.

jfc

I made my point previously already

@Sam Amari I suggest finding solutions if you're truly this excited about it.