Hard to convey into words.....I admit I am not the smartest guy around

I do......and everyone has done it, I really have nothing to say or offer the community. I like some blogs and videos........and I get it

I admire a lot of guys out there.....young and old......but I get more fellowship with people out there in general

lol That's the case with everything that eventually becomes popular.

most are not MGTOW

is it?

Pretty much. The new ones tend to make it about who is real and who is not.

Ego trips, the lot

There isn't room in MGTOW for most men sadly, they would not be welcome

what do you mean?

I think there's enough room, but most men would not feel comfortable in MGTOW.

Men are not built to be MGTOW these days.

Including most in MGTOW

you mean going full monk?

or just dipping your toe in for entertainment

Well that's why there's different recognizable levels of MGTOW.

Everyone has their own journey.

some levels are more "welcome" than others

I think too many MGTOW project the idea that we all must be on the same level at all times.

Each level, I think, has it's extremists. Like most social groups or ideologies in general.

so the extremist tend to push people away, is that what you mean?

.... I mean, extremists tend to attack those who are even slightly not on their particular course.

right

I've witnessed a scene (MGTOW) that has turned into mostly talking about women, talking about how many were nailed / bedded / bent over and then in the same breath saying how "they're all sluts"

youre right, I dont think thats a good message

should be about finding your own unique path, which may or may not cross others paths

I wouldn't be surprised to see those of that type end up back on the plantation

A scene where every guy is now some amazin' Alpha........

Yeah, I think far too much MGTOW content is on women, instead of self-actualization. But it's weird because I think many creators feel the need to cater to the new MGTOW who are still raging about women.

And far too many creators are obsessed with building a "channel" and having "subs" instead of creating content.

and like I said earlier.....differ from the excat lockstep at the moment......out comes the put downs, crass talk...........

Isnt the point to stop wasting time on the traditional roles, and find something more creative and fulfilling purposes

^

I agree with these sentiments

and you'll frequently find me talking about doing things to advance myself in life

I like the idea of mentoring other men to be their best... through training, business, and attitude

yes

So much whinging about women but the reason we're here is we all known women are fucked, lets work on being the best people we can

so....this is where I am at..........look, I've had some adventures, and believe it or not......you're not the same person you are at 20, 27,35, 47

In the end it's interesting because as "MGTOW" grows, many different people adopt it, for many different reasons. So what the meaning of it is becomes convoluted.

nah the meaning stays the same