Why even have debates with people? Debates simply reinforce the views people simply have.

So yeah, better to avoid them rather than to try and navigate them.

nah i prefer to use trickery and watch them suffer a little bit for fun

im not gonna avoid and keep my mouth shut id become so annoyed after a while

fellas I have a question

it is said that women don't understand true love--why are they the biggest consumers of romance novels?

@yugu romance novels are fiction. Therefore they want to make the fiction a reality. But reality doesn't care for your wishes and dreams

Because they want to be loved.

Not that they care to love you or value you beyond the utility that you have to offer.

tragic world we live in :/

It is what it is.

Is part of life

Romance sells to women for the same reasons that sports and action movies usually sell to men: it triggers the natural interest of the gender. Wahmen invest largely in their emotions, so anything that triggers their emotions grabs their attention. Same reason most men are glued to the gladiator-type sports on the TV screen like American football and MMA.

Solipsism isn't instinct.

I think most women know romance is bullshit, just like most men know that action movies aren't real. It's just entertainment.

For survival, something like selfishness would be sufficient.

Solipsism is merely a learned trait.

I don't know what solipsism is.

learned? I thought it was a feature of female nature

Parts of nature tend to be learned, not purely biology.

so blame white knights for everything then

I would suggest reading the Manipulated Man

okay

Well, I wouldn't blame them, they're just acting out their nature in relation to how they have been raised, don't blame the current generation of men for that state of affairs, it also goes both ways, not just the man's fault.

I mean men have their sex drive just as women their hypergamy, if you can't blame one gender for that, why blame the other for it?

Blaming is a waste of energy either way, in my opinion. Acceptance is far more productive.

Now.... I have a question.... How long it last the "white knight" phase of yours?

that it would vary due to the realization that it's not a good path to go down and everyone is different

Maybe we should create a "white knigth" scale then. You know.... For measurement

I would guess that white knighting is a natural/biological male trait. I think it's in all men to some degree, but the only reason it's an issue in today's culture is because it's been weaponized.

totally

and some pitiable guys don't realize it

^

Just like pride or ambition, it can be used against you.

The worst part is that it's the one trait that most men don't realize is being used against them.

Well, let's make a "white knight " teste then. Just like that "are you a robot" test.

Lmao

I mean it's a label with a negative connotation to it so ofc they'd deny it lol

yeah

these guys are the most dangerous btw