mgtow isnt becoming a cult. there may be a group of people who follow mgtow philosophy and are trying to make their own cult based on that philosophy. but mgtow isnt a cult.

why should we be responsible for other people making cults? mgtow is open source in that way. people can do what they wish with the ideas of the philosophy

Exactly! And thats why you guys have to continue policing themselves and keeping the phillosophy

i dont police anybody's idea of what mgtow should be. im going my own way. not your way

if some people want to go off and make a cult thats their problem. and if people follow that cult. thats their problem. not mine

mra's are the ones who are a movement. mgtow is just a self preservation method. and a lifestyle

Well, anyway....I'm thinking in calling tfm tomorrow. And I'm thinking about discussing the "taking womens rights"

But you can be an mra and still follow the mgtow philosophy

In that case, maybe tfm should be considered as an mra? You know... Because he advocates to take womens rights

i would say tfm is more of a right wing guy than an mra. mra's are trying to change the system. tfm wants to replace it with a better

one

I guess you could say that

but tfm still follows mgtow philosophy

his show is more about pointing out the problems in society than anything else really imo

But... Since womens have so many rights in relation to men, and taking many rights its too difficult, wich order the rights should be taken?

Agreed

No one's rights will be taken except men's

That is unless we hit rock bottom and society goes down along with the rights of women

I know. Collapse would really need to happen for that. Like an epidemy that wipes out 90% os population

But, let's just imagine that collapse will never happen

I still have hope of there being another way though, it's still a possibility

Sex bots will make women desperate for men

It might help put them in their place, or the overall rejection of men having women as partners

If it happens on a large scale women will change

And so will society

Now, I dont have the list of the rights that should be taken. Does anybody has?

Not me

TFM probably does

Good morning guys

Morning dude

The only one that I know is voting. But is that enough? Or should consider other rights?

Voting for sure. Abortion?

Abortion as well

It would be a good start

as tfm says. until you take away voting rights. nothing will get fixed

Voting and abortion, thats 2. But tfm said several times that he's not against abortion

Voting is the major one.

Were not making women second class citizens here

I am, but there are exceptions of course

what he has said is that abortion doesnt effect the fertility rate high enough.

its empowering women that ruins the fertility rate