nothing swayed them from their path

Laser like focus and determination

exactly - they felt they had a 'calling'

Is there a quick way to find your calling? That's where I'm stuck right now

I don't currently have one

@Sigma lets see.... Fins a way of transforming your escapism hobbies in productive hobbies

reading could be escapism too, but I rationalize

the thing nowadays is a lot of people don't realise how useful university can be. in robert's book he says that one of they keys to mastery is undertaking an apprenticeship where you accept how little you know, don't question, and just absorb. nowadays people just get onto degrees for the sake of it and don't see it as an apprenticeship where you can have student-master contact.

I could see myself teaching martial arts

@Kazemaru until u find ur calling, escapism can actually be a useful tool if used wisely - escapism allows your subconscious to ponder as your calling comes from ur subconscious not conscious mind

Aye

For example.... If you like animes, use this to learn japanese

@Sigma dream until you have a vision that is so compelling that you stay up all night thinking about it. then commit to it and don't look back

I stayed up all night one time thinking about having my own training facility

@Sigma you're at one of the most pivotable points in ur life man - be true to urself and you'll know when you have ur calling

training/recovery facility

I would love to make a living teaching people how to work out and teaching martial arts

I'd like personal training, but I don't think it pays enough to live

and tiny houses have zoning laws that work against owning one

@Reaper yeah - it's sad because nowadays kids have huge egos and all suffer from the dunn kruger effect - therefore are unwilling to submit themselves to anything where they feel inferior and just need to absorb information without having a chance to question it - they go to school to express themselves without actually building a foundation of knowledge - therefore their expressive thoughts are shallow and meaningless. your pyramid can only be as tall as its base allows - nowadays ppl are just too impatient to take the time to learn fundamentals and the real beauty behind different trades.

@JDB I will have to look into the Dunn kruger effect , I can definetly see this generations egos getting in the way of real growth for them and it's sad

also, the process of accumulating knowledge is 'messy' at school - you have no scope of how things fit together. this is where a master is needed

knowledge should be built upon fundamentals, a layering like process. this way you have a 'rich' understanding of a subject and where various topics stem from. it also allows you to very easily draw parallels to other topics because you have an understanding of a core concept that over-rules many other sub-topics. in school you get taught a bit from everywhere without taking time to fill in the gaps that should connect different strands on knowledge. the process of learning i believe we should learn by is 'mastery learning' - however it has a huge downside being that it takes actual interest and more time to integrate - hence it will never be incorporated in schools. however if you learn like this and reason from a fundamental first principle, your thoughts will be simple but complex and you will be able to move mountains.

That was well put

thank you - it's frustrating because if we all structured our thoughts like this from a young age we would have an extremely logical society that isn't swayed so easily by emotions.

In a college setting, I assume a Master-Apprenticeship is basically working closely with a professor in your field of study on a specific thing

yep exactly

Robert Greene even mentioned how some masters who went to college achieved mastery and it involved working closely with a professor on a project

it's basically one-on-one learning, which is the best way to learn

i'm 20 and i know that i can't actually explain anything that i learned from school from a first principle, nor can i connect topics by an over-arching concept. i'm frustrated that i didn't realise this sooner but at the same time at-least i realise it.

I only realized a lot of this shit within the last two years and I'm 26

@Sigma exactly, most people don't give a shit about their course and don't utilise the opportunity

I feel like I'm far behind

tbh, i feel like you can only really comprehend this at an age of 18+

If I didn't go straight to college right after graduating...omfg

otherwise your influenced too heavily by society and haven't experienced enough self-growth

atleast we've found mgtow, that allows us to develop our consciousness - 95% of people never ask themselves 'why'

better late than never

and if they do, they are scared and disgusted with the answers that get - so they stop after tier 1

All this stuff is exactly what I need at this point

I need a right of passage, which is essentially a mission/journey to embark on