@JDB I will have to look into the Dunn kruger effect , I can definetly see this generations egos getting in the way of real growth for them and it's sad

also, the process of accumulating knowledge is 'messy' at school - you have no scope of how things fit together. this is where a master is needed

knowledge should be built upon fundamentals, a layering like process. this way you have a 'rich' understanding of a subject and where various topics stem from. it also allows you to very easily draw parallels to other topics because you have an understanding of a core concept that over-rules many other sub-topics. in school you get taught a bit from everywhere without taking time to fill in the gaps that should connect different strands on knowledge. the process of learning i believe we should learn by is 'mastery learning' - however it has a huge downside being that it takes actual interest and more time to integrate - hence it will never be incorporated in schools. however if you learn like this and reason from a fundamental first principle, your thoughts will be simple but complex and you will be able to move mountains.

That was well put

thank you - it's frustrating because if we all structured our thoughts like this from a young age we would have an extremely logical society that isn't swayed so easily by emotions.

In a college setting, I assume a Master-Apprenticeship is basically working closely with a professor in your field of study on a specific thing

yep exactly

Robert Greene even mentioned how some masters who went to college achieved mastery and it involved working closely with a professor on a project

it's basically one-on-one learning, which is the best way to learn

i'm 20 and i know that i can't actually explain anything that i learned from school from a first principle, nor can i connect topics by an over-arching concept. i'm frustrated that i didn't realise this sooner but at the same time at-least i realise it.

I only realized a lot of this shit within the last two years and I'm 26

@Sigma exactly, most people don't give a shit about their course and don't utilise the opportunity

I feel like I'm far behind

tbh, i feel like you can only really comprehend this at an age of 18+

If I didn't go straight to college right after graduating...omfg

otherwise your influenced too heavily by society and haven't experienced enough self-growth

atleast we've found mgtow, that allows us to develop our consciousness - 95% of people never ask themselves 'why'

better late than never

and if they do, they are scared and disgusted with the answers that get - so they stop after tier 1

All this stuff is exactly what I need at this point

I need a right of passage, which is essentially a mission/journey to embark on

you're young enough to heavily influence your life - you're still 'young' in a broad sense. regardless, even if you're 70, to me atleast, mgtow can bring logic to your life and can validate your own thoughts that you thought were inadequate

@Sigma dream my man, dream until you have a vision that brings you to a deep flow state of consciousness

then you know you've found it

I'll get more clarity when I start working out again

I haven't worked out much lately

yeah, working out is extremely therapeutic and can part the clouds that hide logic

working full time kills me

The clarity of mind after a tough workout alone makes training worth it

Never once in your life will you regret working out

yeah, it's amazing - it allows you to enter a deeper consciousness

* conscious state

Definitely does...nothing beats being in the zone. I've chased that dragon for as long as I've worked out for. Nothing like it

Athletes naturally operate in a higher state of consciousness

even as their baseline, their consciousness is much higher than the average person

i believe 'intelligence' is a state, not something you are - i'm not talking about intelligence through accumulation of knowledge - rather a state where your mind runs near optimal , aka 'flow' therefore the key isn't to become 'intelligent' rather to figure out what your 'key' is that open your 'intelligence'/'flow' state

once you do that, you'll have access to incredible tools within ur mind

I know exactly what you mean

and then you'll make devastatingly big progress in whatever you set your laser-like focus on

You're talking about the infinite intelliegence

what's that