@KD so if a guy stops banging H to level up his WOW character I will call it an improvement

That is not true

KD

Just because something works well does not mean it cannot be improved

@KingGiraffasauragreed not true

Are you saying that people should just be honest about having issues?

Hmm🤔

Okay so then what is one to do KD?

"You are perfect as you are, stay as you are"

Games as just another diversion

You sound like the feminists who excuse people being fat

@KingGiraffasaur exactly sounds like incel talk to me now

and that *some* hide behind "self improvemint" to mask those issues?

@Templar also true templar

I mean people with issues would be honest with themselves and want to improve themselves.

And to be entirely honest, if you find flaws in yourself, fix them

Same reason why fat people go to the gym.

So what's the issue?

I find flaws in myself so I work to fix them

How is that negative?

*Denial*

That's a fundamental part of the human existence

^

And if people do act on it IRL?

@KingGiraffasaur this may be a waste of time

And not simply something that is being discussed?

Talking about self improvement as a motivational thing though, what's wrong with that?

I believe where KD is coming from is that if you fundamentally believe that something is wrong with you, that there is something holding you back some trauma or self doubt, that you'll never realize that there isn't anything actually wrong with you and that thing your trying to "improve" on is just holding you back because you believe there is something that needs to be fixed. Correct me if im wrong

nothing but i dont think thats the issue @KingGiraffasaur

Maybe you're saying that is it a cover to not seem like it's about hating women or just not getting married?

@KingGiraffasaur bro this guy is basically just accusing us of being all talk and considering I was only talking about it for HIS benefit I'm good u guys all have a good evening

That's the thing though, I don't hate women, and I don't want to get married

Okay well I fundamentally disagree about that

Its just a discussion

I have a hatred for women i won't deny that

Humans almost always have flaws in them, assuming that there is nothing wrong with you doesn't make sense, also that humans wants are unlimited. So there will be want for improvement with stuff, whether you act on it or not.

I sometimes have feelings of hating women.

I personally do not hate women, they play the hand they're dealt

i want to accept women's nature and come to peace with it but i'm just learning about all these new concepts and takes time to digest

I would admit I don't like women, but I wouldn't hold on to hate as it ruins my mental health, not because they are fine or anything that they can't help it, as others tend to keep going on and on about.

That was a good show tbh @Magicalbum