@Xiu Yee No problem, mate. Bless your soul that you're discovering mgtow at such a young age. I wish i was red pilled in high school. Life would have gone so much differently for me.

i never had women issues in high school

I was a virgin until 26 and didn't get the full experience until like 30. THough i still have issues and performance anxiety, etc.

still a virgin, no real desire to lose it

prob had at least half a dozen times i could have lost it on a whim

Same.

I had opportunities but was too awkward and blind to see them for what they were.

especially that one forceful feminist girl a friend in college had around sophmore year

oh i knew she wanted sex

Well perhaps i did see them, but i was still too awkward to take advantage of it. I hope she's doing well.

i just didnt want into that

All i have to say in closing is where's all the coffee at? 😋 😂

Can someone link me the video of ddj on the red men group?

If you have issues of awkwardness you're probably too invested,

@Happy Humble Hermit what game engine are you developing with? Unity?

I dunno. It was 16-19+ years ago and i was a straight up mess in high school. I was poorly socialized by my family, and lived in a toxic, abusive and neglectful environment.

Plus my dad wasn't allowed in my life so i didn't even have a male authority figure to go to for advice. No role models really to speak of either.

@GingerSnaps only after getting a lot older, I realized just how much a good male role model means - also, it's not enough to have one that's on TV or whatever, role models need to be accessible

@Nihbru I agree wholeheartedly.

so many guys are stuck not having that, ignoring the obvious from divorces, there are also the married guys that are terrible dads and aren't there for their kids, then there are those that use work as a way to avoid their kids and so on

the pool of kids that grow up with positive male role models I can only imagine is terribly small

Also many have such a tentative grasp on their own masculinity that they can't teach their sons how to be men.

i mean.. the mental baggage you have to sort through alone, is detrimental to ones growth and progress

@Happy Humble Hermit are you working on developing a game?

There! Found the video!

@GingerSnaps listen close. If you are damaged enough, you get to choose if you want to remain damaged or not. Its not required to be masculine in order to be a man buddy. Sure you may not have the unquestionable structure and stability that manly character is praised for BUT unlike them you are much less likely to trample over someone. This someone might as well be your kid as my dad never figured. You and I have the more gentle nature that lets us be wiser, turn back and check if we were right or wrong. This is the fundamental for a good and open human being, (best parent material). Unlike the authoritarian counterpart fueled by this crude masculinity. Be yourself and when you see someone unsure and without structure tap him on the shoulder and show him what he doesnt see.

@Commanda Knuckel I agree. Well said. I think of myself as a good, open and empathetic human being. And i think i'd make a great lover and father. But sadly most women don't deserve that in their lives. Unlike your conventional/traditional "alpha" male. I don't necessarily agree with being myself though. I strive to be the best version of myself for any given situation. I primarily say that though because "being myself" hasn't warranted me much fruit in my lifetime. In the sense of always being true to yourself and what you believe in though i will agree that you should always be yourself.

agree, btw on the 1st part of being yourself. Im not just sitting here being myself. :D
i started training this friday for better body, i am having a board (the brown ones you pin papers on) here on which i pin tasks and obsess over removing them (i lied myself to get to work so nicely), i practive the vocabulary, the gestures and everything else that shapes me the way i want to be.
I have the options for a woman and so on but i find it very bounding. Because a woman expects you to behave a certain way and do certain things which is not in line with my idea for myself and the conditioning she will impose on me will deter my own development. SO nothing lost there as far as im concerned.

But at the same time bitch about how you changed.

"you are no longer the one i fell in love with"

agan, no real benefit to a relationship if u get past the companionship thing

Well, people get married to have kids and have someone to raise the kids.

Though having kids is worth shit.

let some other sap make that mistake

id rather have a man and say we are gays and raise kids from surogates instead of doing that with a woman 😄

theres more to life than having sex with women and having children

Might actually be better to raise men in like a commune or some shit.

She's not yours, it's just your turn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gurukula

This used to be a thing in India.

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath keep it family friendly and cozy with ammount of family members arround 2 😄 BUT having a few dudes with their kids arround could be so enriching in terms of childhood