@shadowlessnexus i dont know man, all the tenga products hurt my dick. i havent tried the $200 electric one though

yeah, just tenga. i do love their water based lube, which is what i only use at the moment other than my hand...

well. in any case imma judge for myself

@ziyauren yeah i guess when you become a parent, sex is no longer at the top of the totem pole

@shadowlessnexus yeah man, i hope you enjoy it

@shadowlessnexus I swear by the flip zero black ev - I have the non ev version so I GUARANTEE it's better

@M.Dog Founder of Islam the pheromones of the kids start to compete w/other stuff n the result is actually liberating in some senses if u can avoid the reproductive instinct traps

well all i really want to see is if they can deliver a product that isnt complete garbage. of course ill be keeping in mind that i bought a one time use thing for cheap.

@shadowlessnexus During Black Friday - I bought the autoblow 2xt with normal sleeve and small sleeve - that product is shit. I bought the fleshlight launch - riley reid pack - it's decent but doesn't compare to tenga flip zero black (not white - it's more extreme). It is a little small but it's amazing.

@ziyauren that is interesting. either way, im sure priorities change the second you have your own offspring to take care of

my fleshlight is 2 years old at this point. and its starting to fall apart. so i gotta replace. 2 years for 70 canadian monopoly dollars is pretty good tho

also this has a lot to do w/why men n their 40's have that 'mid life ' crisis....hehehe

jus lie women go thru phases biologically so do men but we tend to gloss it over and over intellectualize it jus as women over emotionalize theirs

*like

@ziyauren interesting. i was not aware of that

helps to know the tools n environment u r workin with😉

definitely, the more you are aware of nature/environment the better😁

scroll up n read the @M.Dog Founder of Islam that described how i deal w/it... might make more sense to u now

here is a copy/paste of it in case u don't see it or recognize it for what it was ...@M.Dog Founder of Islam for instance... i maintain almost constant contact w/my son n stay daily on anthropogy as related to cultural psychology (my profession and career b4 retirement) so I have almost zero desire for women these days tho i'm not gay n a lil frappin from time to time does it for me😉

taking into account my age n circumstance this allows me to have good repression of instinct n chem balance to b stable, focus, n satisfied w/out female input

its kind of like a good diet for my mind n soul😄

Anyone else feel really unmotivated to work hard after discovering red pill/mgtow?

Not applicable to me

if u r unmotivated bcuz of the 'red pill' then u likely haven't completely workked thru the grief cycle yet🤔

Well, more like - I just feel like I don't need to work as hard as I am working if it's just going to be me.

Before, I was like "I need to accomplish all these things for someone else possibly."

'hard' us a very subjective term... I never stop thinking unless i'm asleep n work on many things all day.... it would b 'hard' if I considered it work but i enjjoy it😉

I guess that's my problem - I consider most of this boring and just not my cup of tea.

Time to pivot!

Sounds like anhedonia @machtyn

I had this my whole life. Quitting instant gratification helps.

then work on self actualization n don't consider things need to get there that u would normally consider work as anything but a step to your goals...

@hel i say probably not or he wouldn’t be here

if u can't do that then u prolly jus have a prob w/laziness

I want to be more lazy, if anything.

Reprogram your brain

mb

You are what you think you are

@machtyn then u prolly have conceptual probs w/laziness vs work and instant gratification

@hel is that wishful thinking lol 😆

@ziyauren Can you elaborate? What do you mean by that?