also this has a lot to do w/why men n their 40's have that 'mid life ' crisis....hehehe

jus lie women go thru phases biologically so do men but we tend to gloss it over and over intellectualize it jus as women over emotionalize theirs

*like

@ziyauren interesting. i was not aware of that

helps to know the tools n environment u r workin with😉

definitely, the more you are aware of nature/environment the better😁

scroll up n read the @M.Dog Founder of Islam that described how i deal w/it... might make more sense to u now

here is a copy/paste of it in case u don't see it or recognize it for what it was ...@M.Dog Founder of Islam for instance... i maintain almost constant contact w/my son n stay daily on anthropogy as related to cultural psychology (my profession and career b4 retirement) so I have almost zero desire for women these days tho i'm not gay n a lil frappin from time to time does it for me😉

taking into account my age n circumstance this allows me to have good repression of instinct n chem balance to b stable, focus, n satisfied w/out female input

its kind of like a good diet for my mind n soul😄

Anyone else feel really unmotivated to work hard after discovering red pill/mgtow?

Not applicable to me

if u r unmotivated bcuz of the 'red pill' then u likely haven't completely workked thru the grief cycle yet🤔

Well, more like - I just feel like I don't need to work as hard as I am working if it's just going to be me.

Before, I was like "I need to accomplish all these things for someone else possibly."

'hard' us a very subjective term... I never stop thinking unless i'm asleep n work on many things all day.... it would b 'hard' if I considered it work but i enjjoy it😉

I guess that's my problem - I consider most of this boring and just not my cup of tea.

Time to pivot!

Sounds like anhedonia @machtyn

I had this my whole life. Quitting instant gratification helps.

then work on self actualization n don't consider things need to get there that u would normally consider work as anything but a step to your goals...

@hel i say probably not or he wouldn’t be here

if u can't do that then u prolly jus have a prob w/laziness

I want to be more lazy, if anything.

Reprogram your brain

mb

You are what you think you are

@machtyn then u prolly have conceptual probs w/laziness vs work and instant gratification

@hel is that wishful thinking lol 😆

@ziyauren Can you elaborate? What do you mean by that?

wish w/one hand n shit n the other... see which one fills up first...lol

Not at all, I'm saying that the person who says he can't and the one who says he can are both right.

It's all in the mind.

@ziyauren

I mean that if u are not self actualized enuff to njoy doing what others might consider 'hard' work then u need to do some self evaluation about what u r doing...

I’m 💩 right now literally I didn’t have to wish lol

lol

I definitely question if this specific field is for me or not.

Laziness comes from wishing for fast results. You gotta trust the process and see where it takes you.

I'm a procrastinator, but I'm working on it.

@hel what about the definition of insanity 🤔