thats pretty much it

Oh yeah outside career -- honestly nothing. I want for nothing outside a more challenging/interesting career.

@hel what is a socialist/communist but someone who wants to do nothing and waits for his boat to come n w/out his effort involved?

@machtyn dont do the surgeon

too much nonsence

Well, at least it's mentally stimulating

That's for sure

@Commanda Knuckel Yeah? Other than engineering, surgery has been my other interest.

I think it's definitely more feminist.

A lot more BS to put up with and coworkers would be mostly female.

Well, nurses usually listen to docs.

They HAVE to.

Plus, I am already an engineer so less hassle there. I just don't like my current niche/role.

if you become a surgeon you will not have time nor energy for mgtow or whatever else is there on the world

But

That's actually not a bad thing, lol.

it is if you want to live

You make it sound like MGTOW is supposed to be your wife

What if being a surgeon is mgtow for him

then its up to him as it is now

but its very binding to the state and the dependancy on a hospital to call yourself a doctor is not worth it for me

Yeah I follow you there.

you save people's life. what's more rewarding than that?

That is one thing I truly love about the title/role of engineer - I am totally stateless and able to work in whatever capacity I want.

Yes! That is why I love the idea of being a doctor. I can save lives and affect lives MORE VISIBLY than engineering.

I do think engineering can save lives too.

The feedback loop isn't as obvious.

But you also have to be able to deal with accidents and sudden deaths

what annoys me is that people say all these nice things for medicine and how dignified it is since the plague

but today this just isnt the case

with money controling it

if u want to save livesn b a surgeion study life extension and growing/replacing organs

Genetic engineering.

id go for disease prevention

doesn't have to b genetic... they r already replacing organs w/organs that were grown in the lab

@Commanda Knuckel A lot of our issues in medicine are behavioral.

I am obsessed with health for that reason.

What about psychology? @machtyn

true... obesity now surpasses heart disease as a cause of death n that is mostly a behavioual prob

psycology is considered a soft science for a reason

it's also considered a pseudoscience