mgtow has always been the true nature of men.

Mgtow is a philosophy not a movement

>< MGTOW is about helping men self actualize. It is not a political movement for garnering votes.

to go ones own way is how men of value comport themselves anyway.

We just recently named it.

Whats wrong with becoming big enough as a movement to help mens lives

Mgtow isn't about taking women's rights away, however I am for taking women's rights away and I'm a mgtow

I just want to watch the world burn

But if I can benefit why not

Do you steal jewels from warlords and then scatter them on the side of the road?

Are men and women equal by nature?

no

Or is one smarter and stronger

Yes

Then true nature makes us unequal

men have a flatter bell curve.

they dont call it man kind for no reason

Men are at the top

@IT G MA! It's not wrong but doing that would co-opt MGTOW away from what it does. It changes the focus of people within it and at that point it would just be the MRM... so if you want to focus on votes and politics to improve mens lives just go to the MRM it is literally there for THAT EXACT PURPOSE!

we're both smarter and dumber.

Apex

@Xychotic Wrong, the bell curves have the same distribution with men's being a mean 5 pts higher.

We can still help the MRM while still being mgtow we can be both if we so choose

Oh? Source, please.

@Xychotic That chart you are referring to comes from the 1983 Court study, you want the 1994 Ravens study.

Give me a minute.

Can you read a study or am I giving you a youtube link?

Try to catch 2 bunnies you get none son

Someone redpill me on the following:

I can't rectify TFM's stance with the MGTOW marriage stance.

MGTOW says no marriage.

I already found the report on the raven's study.

When the chance to vote for something that is positive towards men comes up why wouldn't you vote for that. You can still be mgtow but that doesn't mean you shouldn't vote and just watch the world burn....

But TFM is always talking about replacement population levels.

I didn't want to be doing somersaults trying to fit my foot in my mouth and my head up my ass at the same time... like a feminist.

If you take women's rights away, how are you going to increase the population, yet have no marriage?

If we took their rights away, we wouldn't have to worry about marriage.

Keep marriage just alter it to benifit both genders

@IT G MA! That is fine, if you want to post hey a vote is coming up for this or that feel free. But that is something YOU are doing, that is not a MGTOW as a whole thing.

i personally still wouldn't want to get married

Personally, I think the gov't needs to get itself out of the marriage business altogether and let us define the terms ourselves.