Who's holding the strings if we are all just puppets?

I don't subscribe to those ideas so I couldn't say leaning towards no

biology pulls the strings?

biology, is usually the short answer, wix.

There it is.

Suicide before reproduction proves biology is not a true master.

And the coding of biology?

The nonrandom survival of randomly replicating units.

Most philosophers lean towards no free will exists, IME.

Most?

Nature natures, it has no purpose

Yeah I disagree

Like, most modern philosophers?

Which philosophers are we talking

Because the classical philosophers all believed in free will.

IDK, just what I've been exposed to. You can Google it. It will say Free Will is largely debunked.

Every major christian philosopher, so pretty much every philosopher until those hack french losers.

I can't think of one that doesn't tbh

Though I can't prove it.

I've seen some of the things you're talking about.

dont go into shitposting

Stuff like, "you weren't in control because all the circumstances made you do it"

That's bull.

Thanks Dad on Fridays

Otherwise reframing wouldn't work.

The whole "there is no free will" is the same as "you are only ever on autopilot"

And that's patently wrong.

If nature's "purpose" is to produce the ultimate killer, wouldn't alligators or sharks be: mission accomplished?

or humans?

If nature's purpose is to produce the ultimate killer, it has already succeeded.

Black holes.

entropy

The list goes on.

if a human's purpose is to be a human the bar is pretty low

How about, "We can define our own purpose"?

yo fam @Not in the fbi get rid of that shit

i dont quite agree @Flushtater

what the fuck

what's wrong with being kind towards others?

nothing

@VenomousHawk86 we fucked boy