Message from @randomNPCno3

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2020-01-10 11:17:07 UTC  

why are people still comparing Iran to Vietnam, nothing alike, no one is gonna occcupy Iran

2020-01-10 11:22:36 UTC  

not to mention even if we did we have tech that would have made Vietnam much less messy AND Iran doesn't have the same type of terain to hide in.

2020-01-10 11:23:13 UTC  

just keep bombing single leaders until the new guy would rather keep his head down, that's all we need to do in the area.

2020-01-10 11:23:35 UTC  

and take out any longer range stuff like rockets and such, but again, can be done form the air.

2020-01-10 11:25:24 UTC  

^this

2020-01-10 11:25:39 UTC  

kill every leader that doesn't play nice.

2020-01-10 11:25:47 UTC  

keep killing till they learn

2020-01-10 11:25:52 UTC  

might take a while

2020-01-10 11:26:04 UTC  

I mean, you can even just drop dummy missles on his door step the first time :)

2020-01-10 11:26:23 UTC  

written in something they can understand "next one is live, have a nice day!"

2020-01-10 11:26:31 UTC  

well if i remember correctly, the strategy of proportional increase of force was what led to Vietnam's disaster

2020-01-10 11:27:40 UTC  

but we couldn't next day air warheads to anyone in that country at any time, so it's not gonna be Vietnam in any way.

2020-01-10 11:27:46 UTC  

I've always thought that decisive force is imperative in ending conflicts swiftly... a lesson not learned even as it was what ended WW2

2020-01-10 11:28:17 UTC  

well, reacting with 1 dead leader for every attack would be decisive I think.

2020-01-10 11:28:24 UTC  

yes

2020-01-10 11:28:39 UTC  

I said before I was in awe at the surgical precision of the strike....

2020-01-10 11:29:12 UTC  

the US , has never been good at doing that

2020-01-10 11:32:10 UTC  

Vietnam wasn't lost on a battlefield, it was lost in the universities. And no one intelligent is listening to those anymore

2020-01-10 11:32:47 UTC  

Not for political discourse at least

2020-01-10 11:34:24 UTC  

that is one of the other things i had heard about Vietnam, the leaders didn't have the drive to Win that war proper.
but I havn't done any real digging into it.

2020-01-10 11:36:45 UTC  

It came down to all the hippies telling people that we were bullying Vietnam. Ignoring the existence of the Vietcong and the fact that they were killing allot more Vietnamese than we were

2020-01-10 11:37:06 UTC  

so, nothing really new huh?

2020-01-10 11:37:20 UTC  

the people who don't have to go to war don't understand what war is really about.

2020-01-10 11:37:49 UTC  

Not unless they bother reading

2020-01-10 11:38:29 UTC  

We really need a better focus on history in education

2020-01-10 11:39:42 UTC  

I would agree if i trusted "we" to teach something so complex, or trust that the kids would be interested when "we" try to shove it on to them.

2020-01-10 11:42:11 UTC  

I just mean no more of this barely covering any information about past wars. Kids are just getting taught "these were the bad guys, they lost" no information on the political climate prior to war or why wars are fought in general

2020-01-10 11:42:34 UTC  

Y'know, basic stuff

2020-01-10 11:42:41 UTC  

yah that's a big problem, people going into all of this like we are the bad guys.

2020-01-10 11:43:06 UTC  

Because power=oppression

2020-01-10 11:43:06 UTC  

sure, we haven't always been fully in the right, but we were NOT the bad guys in anything.

2020-01-10 11:52:48 UTC  

By far the greatest and the most advances in epistemology, especially towards the scientific method, were made after the church lost its monopoly on it and it entered the hands of the citizen, allowing for the industrial revolution. Then it turned into academia.
However, since then academia has been corrupted by false authorities, and now we need another revolution against that new monopoly.
My point being that, until that step has been made, we won't have history be taught properly on a large scale. The monopoly on research needs to fall and be returned to the citizens.

2020-01-10 11:53:32 UTC  

I feel like I totally agree with that ETBrooD.

2020-01-10 11:54:09 UTC  

^

2020-01-10 11:57:14 UTC  

seems like the more trust put into large institutions the worse they become, i'm not even sure if i know of an exception.

2020-01-10 12:01:52 UTC  

I agree, all science requires maximum scrutiny. There are only two reasons why we're not entering a dark age of information, 1) because the monopoly of academia is not (yet) entirely united, 2) the internet. But the more one side (in this case progressives) take over academia, the more monopolistic it gets. So for now we have to try to main freedom within the internet, but to really get things going we also need to reduce the public education sector.

2020-01-10 12:02:26 UTC  

I think the internet could suffice to get both things done. We'll see.

2020-01-10 12:05:05 UTC  

when I was learning I was homeschooled, for part of that mom used a system that put us kids in a sort of cubeical with a work book that we could do as much of as we wanted, with a minimum goal over a certain term.

2020-01-10 12:05:28 UTC  

I feel like it worked really well for me and schools would do well to make things like that more of an option.

2020-01-10 12:05:58 UTC  

not to mention that a blew through the science workbooks until they just became more math.

2020-01-10 12:07:23 UTC  

The issue is that they believe people's general knowledge can be trained over the course of many years so as to improve their lives significantly, and this is why they argue that all children should receive the same "basic" (lol, more like bloated) level of education, and that of course must be granted by tax money.