i am not going into an endless cycle of "what about X"?

would u agree that there ought be certain __classes__ of info that should be off limits to the general public?

@SuperHeroDeluxe i mean, it would help catch inconsistancies

like what? @wotmaniac classes?

well, like brue referenced -- state secrets and shit

@SuperHeroDeluxe what if we got rid of IP after 50 years of the creation of the patent so that the individual still has the ability to profit off of his idea

limit the number of people who can see them, and harshly punish people who leak stuff

ppls personal data ought be legally protected (i mean, information is information) .... or would that be too pedantic of me?

i like IP regulation because it can help our Capitalist system work well

> limit the number of people who can see them, and harshly punish people who leak stuff
so, yes?

yeah, personal responsibility

and spank those who get around that

im all for protecting patents/ip

but, would i put someone in prison for getting data on how to make an artificial heart and making one for their child? no

if they weren't using the data to make a profit, i'd have a hard time punishing them

@wotmaniac this is nothing i do not know about the criminal justice system, i just think it is impossible to get the world you want with the killing of these people after 10+ years, it will never get passed. your best hope is to put them in jail and to rationalize that the costs of them being in jail is still cheaper than the net negative social gains that would happen having them be in society or out of it. IQ of course causes them to commit crimes

or atleast is part of it

@SuperHeroDeluxe yes i would sue them into the ground, why the heck would i have made the heart idea in the first place, no one makes things out of the goodness of there profit, or atleast they rarly do. and firms definitly dont pour research into something not profitable

ur not really answering what i'm trying to ask (only sort of)
let me try to word it different:
is there any category(ies) (i'm not asking u to define those categories, just asking if they exist for you) of info that you would be okay with legally protected from ppl being able to see/know? like, it would be against the law for this info to be open?

violence categories

(i'm not trying to frame a gotcha -- just a super simple assessment of your frame of reference)

this is athens there are no gotchas

well, you'de need to sue anyway as soon as you became aware that they made the artificial heart from your design

> violence categories
wtf are u even talking about?

@SuperHeroDeluxe and i would sue whoever gave them my information

for IP theft

you have to sue to demonstrate you want your stuff protected

@SuperHeroDeluxe i'm not talking about IP theft -- that doesn't even address my question.
besides, once you submit your patent application or whatever, that becomes public record.

__***EVERYONE TAKE A MOMENT AT LOOK AT WHAT MY STATUS HAS BEEN FOR THE LAST 2 DAYS***__

that's a reason disney goes after EVERYONE they can

if they let something slide, that's a precedent

y r u ignoring my question?

i guarantee you put a mickey mouse shirt on amazon you'll be suspended in days

@SuperHeroDeluxe ill tell you actually what this freedom of infomation thing is, it is a socialist movement to get rid of IP rights, probably propped up by the Chinese

nvm, i've stopped caring.

@wotmaniac read my post above

china invents nothing because they dont have IP rights

@Brue i have no desire to get rid of IP rights and no chinese are propping me up

the firms over there are in a freeforall just to steal all the info they can

@Brue yeah, but i was asking/talking to SHD.
again, i've stopped caring now.

@wotmaniac okay 😭