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>Leftists in favor of open borders
>Won't take anyone into their homes
>Surprised pikachu face

leftists take the easy route of moral posturing & idealism

"Oh how good I am, supporting the poor brown folk"

>Leftists in favor of helping the poor
>Are poor
>Surprised pikachu face

you forget, only well-off middle class neets can afford to be leftists

Maybe idk

Would be interesting to see the class spread of socialists/capitalists among the voting demographic

I get the feeling the lower rungs of that ladder don't have much faith in either

I'd suspect people from broken homes are particularly strong on socialism

Might be my personal bias but it seems logical that for example kids from single mother homes are more likely to ask for help because they haven't learned from their dad to stand on their own feet

well having an intact family myself and having experienced a period without a home to our name, I can tell you different

it has very little to do with 'asking for help'

Yeah maybe Aydin Paladin has something about that on her channel

it wasn't socialism that kept my dad out of work in the industry he was skilled in while west-indians and other euros filled office cubicles

the current variations of socialism and capitalism in this country are both insufficient for the unaccountably impoverished and/or homeless

I say unaccountably to delineate from those suffering the foreseen consequences of their actions or lack thereof

I don't believe in people being unaccountable for their poverty in the US

It may happen in extremely fringe cases, like getting hit by lightning or by a train

then you just don't believe in the 2008 housing crash

No, I don't believe that ignorance makes innocent

so banks gamble away their holders' money, create a giant system of artificial value around subprime mortgages, and its the clients' fault?

Yes

No, I'm not saying the fault lies exclusively with one party

I think thats a dumb way of looking at it, it's expecting a random guy to predict and then respond to events in the future that many economists didnt understand

Victim blaming is the answer to everything

I'm saying fault is rarely a black and white issue, that's almost exclusively a thing for children

Congress was creating the legislation at the time to ensure maximum bubble popping too

I blame people who stay in geographically unsafe locations

Then they bail themselves out because their investment companies went tits up

yes, the government is also at fault, but he seems to be placing a bizarre amount of it on the citizenry that got absolutely fucked

My entire philosophy is built around maximization of the self-ownership of responsibility

If you're not willing to maximize your accountability, then you must not blame other people first before yourself for your own failures

okay, you're walking down a sidewalk on a busy street. a car blows a tire and swerves, hitting you. was it your responsibility to have not been on that patch of fucking sidewalk?

That has nothing to do with our debate

it rather does

No-one is responsible for large scale changes that screw people over, and many people simply dont have the resources to actually do anything about it

You're bringing up a fringe scenario to win an argument about the average situation

I already said, getting struck by lightning doesn't count