Message from @calman21

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2019-12-06 07:24:15 UTC  

Thats because you dont study machine intelligence and dont know what AI is

2019-12-06 07:25:47 UTC  

no, not all robots are AI. AI implies it has the capability to learn

2019-12-06 07:25:56 UTC  

robots can be fully preprogrammed and incapable of learning

2019-12-06 07:25:59 UTC  

they're distinct

2019-12-06 07:26:27 UTC  

They are merely not a powerful enough AI to learn

2019-12-06 07:26:46 UTC  

Guderian, I am trying to stop myself from snarkily insulting you, we are talking in laymens terms rn

2019-12-06 07:27:30 UTC  

u are big braining us rn

2019-12-06 07:27:33 UTC  

And programed machine has an "intelligence" how smart, complex, or capable of learning that intelligence is depends on the programming

2019-12-06 07:28:00 UTC  

that's like saying a pulley system can learn algebra

2019-12-06 07:28:03 UTC  

it isn't capable

2019-12-06 07:28:26 UTC  

A pully system cant do anything on its own

2019-12-06 07:28:41 UTC  

and neither can computers

2019-12-06 07:28:55 UTC  

An automated pulley system can

2019-12-06 07:29:16 UTC  

To the extent is programmed complexity allows it

2019-12-06 07:29:26 UTC  

Depends on the computer

2019-12-06 07:29:47 UTC  

Your engine computer does everything on its own

2019-12-06 07:29:52 UTC  

an automated pulley system will make nukes and kill us all

2019-12-06 07:30:04 UTC  

Based on its preprogrammed capabilities

2019-12-06 07:30:17 UTC  

you're tearing this family apart guderian!

2019-12-06 07:30:28 UTC  

If its programmed intelligence is complex enough

2019-12-06 07:30:30 UTC  

Okay, real quick, because it feels like this is still the human labor debate, if we could automate away every single job in existence, should we @Tiberius ?

2019-12-06 07:31:01 UTC  

Not all jobs can be automated but what we can we should be allowed to

2019-12-06 07:32:43 UTC  

I mean, AI can write music and paint artwork, make memes, so, if a robot could do anything a human can do, but better, should we get rid of people in all sectors of the economy?

2019-12-06 07:33:52 UTC  

We should be free to do so

2019-12-06 07:34:24 UTC  

And if we do then we will have to develop a new systen of economics from scratch

2019-12-06 07:34:26 UTC  

shouldn't that be a group consensus thing?

2019-12-06 07:34:34 UTC  

Fuck no

2019-12-06 07:34:56 UTC  

Groups don't get to dictate the actions of individuals in regards to their own businesses

2019-12-06 07:35:09 UTC  

*looks at how every country handles nukes*

2019-12-06 07:35:12 UTC  

*sweats*

2019-12-06 07:35:28 UTC  

fine, i rule all the nukes now and I say we nuke Sweden

2019-12-06 07:35:50 UTC  

There I clarified

2019-12-06 07:36:06 UTC  

because here is the fundamental problem: the automating away of phone operators in place of an automated system is fine because people who are fundamentally low skilled workers can move into other sectors that also require low skill labor

2019-12-06 07:36:53 UTC  

but the legal system does dictate the actions of businesses

2019-12-06 07:36:55 UTC  

if we hit a point in automation in which all low skill laborer work could be replaced with an automated alternative, even into new job sectors, where will these people work

2019-12-06 07:37:11 UTC  

They wont

2019-12-06 07:37:41 UTC  

let's just make hunger games as a response to AI taking low level jobs

2019-12-06 07:37:48 UTC  

if you no work then you go in the pit!

2019-12-06 07:38:02 UTC  

Are you arguing that we should legally prohibit people from using AI in their businesses

2019-12-06 07:38:41 UTC  

That we REQUIRE businesses to use human labor

2019-12-06 07:38:57 UTC  

Sounds like authoritarianism to me