Message from @calman21

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2019-12-06 07:34:56 UTC  

Groups don't get to dictate the actions of individuals in regards to their own businesses

2019-12-06 07:35:09 UTC  

*looks at how every country handles nukes*

2019-12-06 07:35:12 UTC  

*sweats*

2019-12-06 07:35:28 UTC  

fine, i rule all the nukes now and I say we nuke Sweden

2019-12-06 07:35:50 UTC  

There I clarified

2019-12-06 07:36:06 UTC  

because here is the fundamental problem: the automating away of phone operators in place of an automated system is fine because people who are fundamentally low skilled workers can move into other sectors that also require low skill labor

2019-12-06 07:36:53 UTC  

but the legal system does dictate the actions of businesses

2019-12-06 07:36:55 UTC  

if we hit a point in automation in which all low skill laborer work could be replaced with an automated alternative, even into new job sectors, where will these people work

2019-12-06 07:37:11 UTC  

They wont

2019-12-06 07:37:41 UTC  

let's just make hunger games as a response to AI taking low level jobs

2019-12-06 07:37:48 UTC  

if you no work then you go in the pit!

2019-12-06 07:38:02 UTC  

Are you arguing that we should legally prohibit people from using AI in their businesses

2019-12-06 07:38:41 UTC  

That we REQUIRE businesses to use human labor

2019-12-06 07:38:57 UTC  

Sounds like authoritarianism to me

2019-12-06 07:39:01 UTC  

I am saying that it is in businesses's long term best interest to do so

2019-12-06 07:39:10 UTC  

But it isnt

2019-12-06 07:39:37 UTC  

I already posted my citations for this

2019-12-06 07:39:44 UTC  

So far you have nothing

2019-12-06 07:40:13 UTC  

Why would a call center not automate their positions?

2019-12-06 07:40:24 UTC  

A transportation company?

2019-12-06 07:40:49 UTC  

I have a new argument, Its not just about the money, its about the accountability humans have that robots do not have

2019-12-06 07:41:03 UTC  

Trucking would save 60 billion on wages alone

2019-12-06 07:41:11 UTC  

you cannot program conscious decision making that is as dynamic as a human's ability to do so

2019-12-06 07:41:18 UTC  

And more than double production

2019-12-06 07:41:34 UTC  

Yes you can

2019-12-06 07:41:44 UTC  

To an extent

2019-12-06 07:42:25 UTC  

What decisions could a low skill human make that an AI cant?

2019-12-06 07:42:53 UTC  

Hell in the 90s thry made a near impossible to beat AI for chess

2019-12-06 07:43:16 UTC  

I'm saying that if AI threatens humans and their quality of life then it should have restrictions imposed on it

2019-12-06 07:43:25 UTC  

^^^^^

2019-12-06 07:43:56 UTC  

we can make a moral decision about automation if it would negatively impact our quality of life or the way certain people live their lives

2019-12-06 07:44:09 UTC  

Because that AI could make decisiond based on calculating every possibility for the next thousand moves in an instant

2019-12-06 07:44:11 UTC  

I am switching arguments rn,

2019-12-06 07:44:24 UTC  

but I will get back to the chess argument

2019-12-06 07:44:35 UTC  

that only works because it is in a constrained ruleset which is chess

2019-12-06 07:44:45 UTC  

You dont have a right to force your subjective morality onto someone else

2019-12-06 07:44:47 UTC  

real life is infinitely more complicated than chess

2019-12-06 07:45:04 UTC  

You dont play much chess do you

2019-12-06 07:45:07 UTC  

AI has actually demonstrated creative ways of breaking rules and finding loop holes. They would be better than any human lawyer lol

2019-12-06 07:45:37 UTC  

are you really going to argue that real life IS NOT more complicated than chess?

2019-12-06 07:46:11 UTC  

Even with twal live being more complicated than chess that was an AI nearly impossible to beat in the 90s