Message from @Mersenne
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I personally wouldn't want Direct Democracy for Electing the president either, tbbh
No direct democracies
Besides, without the current system rust belt and central states would be marginalized out of existence. At best is taxation without representation - at worst it's a recipe for civil conflict.
I'm too afraid of the average person and their lack of knowledge to trust them.
@Inept Chronicler There is a difference between using Direct Democracy to Elect and using Direct Democracy as a System of Gov't
Like France, for instance, elects their Presidents through Direct Democracy but they're still a Congressional Republic run like the US
Yes their is because as a consequence all the cities control the power and deciede the elections
Fucking the rural areas
That's actually untrue; been debunked numerous times
But even then, that's why I personally wouldn't have the President be directly elected
I favour a Parliamentary System like the UK and India
oh fuck no
The US can already do that
Not that checks on power matter over time, as we have seen, I would think someone with unilateral military power would be the person you'd least want elected through direct election.
My friend has told me horror stories from when he lived there
It's not even bad
Take the Congressional Election that the US has, and just use that to elect your leader
Unlike the EC (which has a 90% Popular Victor to Electoral Victor), the US Congress has a 97% Success
What do you think about the idea that only net taxpayers should be allowed to vote?
Even if morally correct, I disavow any system that infringes on Constitutional Rights.
^The US Election would be divided like this
Basically, the Leader of the Party to Win the Most Seats in Congress becomes President
"Even if morally correct, I disavow any system that infringes on Constitutional Rights." That's a weird position. Pragmatism?
@Inept Chronicler Pretty straightforward, eh?
Works nicely too
And it lets us vote Third Parties because those parties can now freely hold seats in Congress
Not a bad idea. Breaks the electoral college into districts instead of states, am I reading that correctly?
Yep
One District gets one Vote
It would increase representation which is good.
While only net taxpayers should have a say in elected officials, it breaks the idea of every US citizen having a constitutional right to vote for an elected official.
It's how the UK, Canada, Australia, India, NZ, and Japan do things
I don't really care about what is or is not currently law, just what works.
hmmm
And I'm against any proposal that represses representation. DC is a great example of taxation with representation.
If you're not paying taxes, you're not being taxed without representation.
It eliminates votes that press for more entitlement spending.
True. But people need to climb the social-economic ladder to attain the position of net taxpayer.
AKA those with skin in the game get to vote.