Message from @ARockRaider

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2019-12-09 21:22:45 UTC  

like if your town has Evoteing for it's own internal things fine, but the federal elections can't be done on a computer.

2019-12-09 21:22:56 UTC  

computers are just to easy to attack.

2019-12-09 21:24:24 UTC  

I trust that my vote is counted when i put it in that box more then if i put it into a computer, and they could just as easily be takeing that box out back and burning it for all i know.

2019-12-09 21:24:34 UTC  

1) Citizen ID
a. You should be required to have a card which states that you are a citizen of the united states, or that you are in the process of getting citizenship, or that you are on a work visa, and it should have your information for social security, Medicare, drivers license, clearances, and it should have a pin for duel factor authentication just like a credit card so to have security and ability to get new cards when necessary. As well as if you are on welfare you have to use the citizen card so that it is tracked.

2019-12-09 21:25:22 UTC  

what happens if that card is stolen?

2019-12-09 21:26:04 UTC  

just like a credit card, if you do not have the pin as well as the password for dual factor authentication, you can call up, answer from security questions, verfiy it is you, quickly change the pin and then get a new one at the DMV

2019-12-09 21:26:08 UTC  

if you really wanted to be supper secure about it your card has a pointer on it for something like a finger print database and you have a fingerprint scaner on site.

2019-12-09 21:26:33 UTC  

yea the finger print would be great for getting the card back and changed quickly

2019-12-09 21:26:45 UTC  

but all i can say about the topic has been said at this point.

2019-12-09 21:29:10 UTC  

Just get a tatoo of a qr code on your private parts

2019-12-09 21:29:26 UTC  

No one would dare try to validate your id

2019-12-09 21:29:32 UTC  

@Wizard_of_The_West fuck man, why not just make everyone get a bar code on their arm?

2019-12-09 21:29:53 UTC  

Because you can literally take a picture of it and copy it

2019-12-09 21:30:04 UTC  

what about a chip underneath the skin

2019-12-09 21:30:16 UTC  

You can literally scan it in passing and copy it

2019-12-09 21:30:28 UTC  

Or knock'em with a punny joke

2019-12-09 21:30:32 UTC  

no it will have dual factor authentication just like the new chip cards

2019-12-09 21:30:40 UTC  

you will have to have the pin to activate it

2019-12-09 21:30:54 UTC  

that is how the new credit cards have been able to destory the card scanners

2019-12-09 21:31:01 UTC  

For now

2019-12-09 21:31:15 UTC  

the problem is that these things can still be broken on a much larger scale if it is done online.

2019-12-09 21:31:21 UTC  

the dual factor authentication make it extremely hard and costly for criminals

2019-12-09 21:31:39 UTC  

@ARockRaider how so? i dont see a way with dual factor authentication

2019-12-09 21:31:49 UTC  

he says it really well in that vid, if its online changeing one vote cost about as much as changeing a million votes.

2019-12-09 21:32:10 UTC  

Didn't you watch Silicone Valley? Just wait for AI to crack it.

2019-12-09 21:32:26 UTC  

`Multi-factor authentication is an authentication method in which a computer user is granted access only after successfully presenting two or more pieces of evidence to an authentication mechanism: knowledge, possession, and inherence. Two-factor authentication is a type, or subset, of multi-factor authentication`

2019-12-09 21:32:41 UTC  

and again we aren't really talking about the voters ID that is the problem, we are talking about the final counter.

2019-12-09 21:33:07 UTC  

@ARockRaider the individual will be able to check their vote was checked in the system after voting to make sure that they did it right

2019-12-09 21:33:20 UTC  

and if the system lies to you?

2019-12-09 21:33:24 UTC  

how would you know?

2019-12-09 21:33:31 UTC  

You also have the problem with companies that facilitate the networks being hacked and then copying the values.

2019-12-09 21:33:47 UTC  

@ARockRaider the real question is if this is a harder system to lie about than the current one

2019-12-09 21:33:55 UTC  

which the multi factor would be

2019-12-09 21:34:05 UTC  

currently you just show up and go and have no way to check

2019-12-09 21:34:14 UTC  

no way to check afterwards if it was counted

2019-12-09 21:34:45 UTC  

because in the current one we *should* have people hand counting the votes in front of reps form every side, if there is a miss count there is someone who is more likely to be upset about that miss count right there.

2019-12-09 21:35:00 UTC  

Just use bitcoin to vote duh

2019-12-09 21:35:08 UTC  

in the last mid term eleciton there was litteraly a black women who was caught and tried for destorying republican ballots in florida

2019-12-09 21:35:20 UTC  

So much for no voter fraud

2019-12-09 21:35:27 UTC  

the entire place was complicit in the fraud

2019-12-09 21:35:57 UTC  

you think there are not more of that happening?