no need for insults

It's the truth, deal with it

Universal suffrage was a mistake

i thought you were a self professed wolf? why dont you show us how you vote

@Tiberius you get it my boy

I didn't say I'm a wolf

Not everyone should be allowed to hold political office or vote

I fight the wolves

I protect the sheep from people like you

@Tiberius again perfect

@Tiberius sadly we are in a system of democracy, and i say, while we are in it, mind as well play along and do what we can to control it

I am a huge fan of Heinleins Starship Troopers, its much more than just a scifi novel its a political essay

*Democracy exists, lets make it more democratic because why not have absolute mob rule*

What a bunch of nonsense

more democratic just means easier to control

More democratic means more mob rule

who do you think guides the mob

I don't care

It's immoral

that is your opinion

Yeah, it is

Don't forget Richard Jewell comes out this Friday

And I'll use my morality to guide me so I can tell who my enemies are

People should have to perform some kind of difficult public service (doesnt have to be military) before they are allowed to vote or hold office to prove that they can put the needs of society over their own wants and agendas

you wont win unless you also start to control the sheep, you will be naturally selected out of the democratic power game

@ETBrooD

I don't need to win

I just need to keep you from winning

@ETBrooD you moralists bore me

Boo-hoo

your opinion is grounded not in reality at all

lol... this is hilarious...
Declare oneself moral arbiter
Deny others from exercising their freedom
Declare oneself victorious because reasons
???
Profit!

Freedom? Brue is the one trying to deny people freedom

im not denying anyone freedom, i just think it is easy to control people and get them to do what i want, its called influence

My statement was in response to the gentleman over there who doesn't believe ppl should have the right to vote

Yes you are trying to deny freedom, absolutely you are

They shouldn't

i believe in the democratic society that everyone should have the right to vote, i want universal sufferage if we are playing in the democratic game. but that being said, if we dont play in the democratic game, it would probably be best for only the top of society to be able to have a say in it

Just because you didnt die until age 18 doesnt make you qualified to determine the future of society

Democracy is mob rule, it's immoral

im totally down with expanding sufferage further