Popular vote marginalizes over 80% of the country. It's exactly why we don't operate on that basis.

There's a reason the founding fathers didn't create a pure democracy.

we should have manditory voting like australia, and the popular vote should win... the electoral college is out dates

so their belongings wouldnt get voted away from them

i disagree with you

No, it's not. Pure popular vote gives all the voting power to a handful of cities.

they knew in a pure democracy wealth redistribution would happen fast

and repeating that position over and over with no substantial reasons as to why it should be that way.. is not very convincing

You would give no voice to states and inspire a new civil war.

There's alot of reason Clinton lost. Understand that it's not simply because of Trump.

lmao, its just a formality

memes, memes made her lose

bruh, you gotta be pretty salty to want to change an entire voting system cause your candidate was an unpopular lizard.

best prank 4chan ever did

the electoral college is what makes our votes not matter

wrong

Ok, so if I live in Montana under your system, my vote doesn't matter.

the people in the elctoral college are appointed by those that we vote in so.. thats just entirely false

Hell, if I live in 40 states with smaller populations, my vote wouldn't matter.

they appoint people that they think their constituents would agree with and that they think is a good fit for that state

evidentially, making up shit is the trendy thing to do tonight

and if people disagree with who is in the electoral college for their state, its just a matter of voting in new representatives.

its not dems fault they're all in cities, if you're college educated, if you want to work in the creative economy, you move to a city.

Sure, but not all cities are populated by the college educated

nope, work online, it's 2019

They're just more densely populated.

Remember, cities are supported by those 'fly-over' states. Take away their voice, and you'll invite some serious conflict.

not to mention these states also grow their food

so... you might want to hear them out. just saying.

youve convinced me

but the current way that districts are made is corrupt and has to change

Sure, I can agree with that.

It's should be an impartial system - hard to create without an accurate census.

idk, i still have a problem with votes not being equal

thats like a huge thing to be american

your vote matters, just as much as everybody else's

so for example the united states is the largest producer of corn in the world. over 95% of the farms that grow the majority of the worlds corn are family owned farms in "flyover states"... we only export 13% of the corn we produce. meaning we use 87% of that corn for all kinds of things... from food to oils. Now if we have a system that disenfranchises those in these states and that passes laws that benefit mainly cities because the largest population centers determine the winner... well then these farmers will be disproportionally affected. Candidates would specifically cater to the places like NY. Pushing gun laws... hate speech laws and etc. and it wouldnt matter what these farmers have to say in the matter.

you are mistaking the purpose of the electoral college. as its specifically designed to give these areas a say that they otherwise wouldnt have in just a popular vote system

UnScottable's right. You may be frustrated with the Electoral system - but it gives you way more of a voice than a pure democracy.

kinda fucked to give more voting power to someone who lives in a certain place

Thats what a popular voting system would do.