certain behaviors put you at greater risk. The fault still lies with the perpetrator in all cases. Just saying, prevention is a personal responsibility.

yeah, and that isn't justifying what the Nazis or Rapists did *at all*

Because no shit what these two did, just as examples, were awful, awful acts. The same goes for China, them harvesting the organs of people who follow religions they don't like is just disgusting. At the same time though, a religion like Islam *needs* to seriously clean up their own act and disavow their extremist factions.

And of course we can't expect the moderates now to undo what has been done. It's just hard to say China is wrong in it's decision given the history of it all.

I guess the best way to summarize it is: The action is immoral, but the decision was the only logical option.

I still have to abject to the use of reeducation camps on moral grounds, unless if it's with violent extremist factions (and even then I'm still iffy on it).

The organ harvesting though

that's just indefensible

and that's mainly used on the Falon Gong actually

The imprisoning and killing is the main problem. Honestly i have nothing to say for the organ harvesting. It's like throwing on an illegal use of firearms charge over a murder charge. If they're killing them one way or another, it doesn't really make a difference to me whether or not they reuse their organs. Objecting to the killing is already an objection to both.

re -education camps are gay, just exile em

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I don't think thats good enough

use a trebuchet and launch them over the wall?

they're harvested usually while they're still alive

I think so at least

Don't quote me on that though

I'm of the opinion that much of the global problems we have today are caused by the fact that most of the major powers stopped fighting wars properly about a century ago.

weapons got too good

more like since the advent of nuclear weapons

weapons got too good is one factor

costs became too high

the political will went away.

eh i dont think the problem is a lack of world wars

not world wars

if you fight another major power, they may melt your neighborhood with your kids and wife

hear me out

or really any wars really

"I'm of the opinion that much of the global problems we have today are caused by the fact that most of the major powers stopped fighting wars properly "
i think the problem is more like most countries dont really use what they have to grow themselfs.

what makes you think a world war isn't going on now? it's not like in the previous 2 people on the first day said 'holy shit, a new world war is starting"

they want control, not for their people to do well.

Allow me to rephrase

Having gotten themselves into wars, they've stopped finishing them properly.

it's like how people wonder if we're headed for a civil war, we might have already done that (we can call it civil unrest because it's on a slow burn)

it's not the amount of wars

it's not that they SHOULD fight wars

it's that when war occurs it must be fought properly, it must be concluded properly

oh, you're british?

the US has the same problem

getting into a bunch of wars and not fighting to win really.

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