Message from @ThisIsNotGreg

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2019-12-17 14:51:30 UTC  

Not even remotely close

2019-12-17 14:51:46 UTC  

Dude, I’m gonna be honest with you

2019-12-17 14:53:02 UTC  

I don’t mind you sitting here trying to teach me but you’re operating on the assumption that I don’t know what it means, and maybe instead of condescending, you should posit your own answer, because it doesn’t mean low taxes, no regulation, and max personal liberty like some falsely think it does

2019-12-17 14:53:22 UTC  

The opposite of conservative is progressive

2019-12-17 14:53:43 UTC  

What's the opposite of anarchism?

2019-12-17 14:53:50 UTC  

Yes, and a lot of these progressives love Noam Chomsky who is an anarchist

2019-12-17 14:53:53 UTC  

Your point ?

2019-12-17 14:54:12 UTC  

When you see AntiFa, do you see “progress”

2019-12-17 14:54:15 UTC  

Or anarchy

2019-12-17 14:54:16 UTC  

My point is you can read a million books on politics and not understand a single thing about politics if you haven't done your homework first

2019-12-17 14:55:06 UTC  

The opposite of anarchism by the way is authoritarianism

2019-12-17 14:55:16 UTC  

Cool

2019-12-17 14:55:27 UTC  

The opposite is *Order*

2019-12-17 14:55:33 UTC  

I do see "progress" when I see ANTIFA. I think a big mistake we make is that "progress" equates to universal good. They're certainly trying to "progress" things in their own interest, that's for sure.

2019-12-17 14:55:35 UTC  

Understanding these concepts is absolutely neccessary to understand anything about politics

2019-12-17 14:55:47 UTC  

Most people don't understand them, even a lot who are very much into politics

2019-12-17 14:56:15 UTC  

Oh look out ETB saw the Y axis of a political compass and now he’s a genius

2019-12-17 14:56:17 UTC  

Lmaoooo

2019-12-17 14:56:36 UTC  

Yeah oddly enough that's the part most people skip over

2019-12-17 14:56:42 UTC  

The most basic stuff

2019-12-17 14:56:56 UTC  

Wanna fill me in?

2019-12-17 14:57:13 UTC  

Because I notice it’s only me providing actual substantive information rn

2019-12-17 14:57:23 UTC  

You’re simple critiquing with no follow up

2019-12-17 14:57:29 UTC  

Well I mean it's a lot of work to describe different political ideologies

2019-12-17 14:57:45 UTC  

Especially the ones that have been tainted by common misunderstandings

2019-12-17 14:57:47 UTC  

Ok fine I got it

2019-12-17 14:57:53 UTC  

I have a question

2019-12-17 14:58:07 UTC  

I can give an example of something that is almost universally misunderstood

2019-12-17 14:58:27 UTC  

*What is the difference between the Left Wing, and the Right Wing In politics*

2019-12-17 14:58:31 UTC  

Could you answer that?

2019-12-17 14:58:39 UTC  

Yes, but with a caveat

2019-12-17 14:59:03 UTC  

I can describe the difference in a few ways, one are the most commonly understood differences, and two is the most logical difference

2019-12-17 14:59:45 UTC  

Political ideologies as they're commonly understood these days aren't actually logical

2019-12-17 15:00:10 UTC  

I'd estimate they're roughly 30-50% inaccurate depending on where you live

2019-12-17 15:00:27 UTC  

That's a very high error rate and so political labeling becomes meaningless

2019-12-17 15:00:42 UTC  

For example most people think fascism and Nazism are right-wing ideologies. They're not.

2019-12-17 15:01:14 UTC  

But to understand why, one must assume a logical position instead of common labels

2019-12-17 15:02:11 UTC  

A simple reason why fascism can't be right-wing is because it's collectivist. And since capitalism is understood as *not left, but right,* therefore collectivist ideologies (which can't be capitalist), can't be found on the right.

2019-12-17 15:02:55 UTC  

Some people argue that capitalism can be collectivist, but those are complete mongoloids.

2019-12-17 15:03:30 UTC  

So yeah, set up a logical system and you can describe politics properly, but it won't end up resembling the commonly understood labeling.

2019-12-17 15:06:25 UTC  

Perhaps if this all has made sense to you, then you may've noticed that, since fascism isn't right-wing (at least not in a logically consistent way) therefore it must actually be either center or left, and that means if we find any other ideologies on the left, they must resemble fascism in some aspects far more than what is commonly understood.