Message from @ETBrooD

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2019-12-17 15:14:48 UTC  

I think that fascism has more in common with the left side of the spectrum, but I reason it differently

2019-12-17 15:18:07 UTC  

Lol, just realised nvm, what I'm about to describe is basically collectivism vs individualism
Fascism is about a united order, or will of the people, for the people or the state. That seems to me to be quite the opposite philosophy to capitalism, which is all about the individual freedom to do what benefits the individual

2019-12-17 15:18:20 UTC  

Agreed, yep

2019-12-17 15:19:02 UTC  

Some ideologies are in strong, but not complete opposition to other ideologies despite not being on the same spectrum

2019-12-17 15:19:19 UTC  

Not to mention the right side of the spectrum is all about freedom of speech and other freedoms, where as fascism and communism are both about controlling the people to achieve a better society

2019-12-17 15:19:38 UTC  

E.g. authoritarianism and collectivism are very similar in their definitions, so they both oppose individualism strongly (only collectivism opposes it more)

2019-12-17 15:20:12 UTC  

Yeah

2019-12-17 15:20:29 UTC  

I think the third best starting point would be authoritarianism/liberalism

2019-12-17 15:20:36 UTC  

But it's kinda redundant

2019-12-17 15:20:45 UTC  

collectivism/individualism already covers so much of that

2019-12-17 15:21:11 UTC  

Yeah I guess so

2019-12-17 15:22:23 UTC  

I've heard plenty of socialists describe America as being nearly a fascist state, I'm not American, but I dont think that is the case
How would you describe the current American system?

2019-12-17 15:23:32 UTC  

Well it has a lot of individualism and capitalism compared to other countries

2019-12-17 15:23:48 UTC  

But I would not describe the US as capitalist or individualist, just more than the rest of the world

2019-12-17 15:24:06 UTC  

So it's basically just mixed on those two scales

2019-12-17 15:24:17 UTC  

And the progressive/conservative divide is particularly strong

2019-12-17 15:25:15 UTC  

It's really hard to be more precise because I'd have to learn so much about the American economy and the legal system

2019-12-17 15:26:09 UTC  

Are you American?

2019-12-17 15:26:20 UTC  

I'm Austrian, just very interested in US politics

2019-12-17 15:26:57 UTC  

Ahaha, I'm Australian

2019-12-17 15:27:13 UTC  

That's the other Austria on a foreign planet I think?

2019-12-17 15:27:32 UTC  

Sometimes I forget you people even exist

2019-12-17 15:27:42 UTC  

Yeah basically, just an upside down Austria

2019-12-17 15:27:49 UTC  

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2019-12-17 15:28:14 UTC  

Veery nice

2019-12-17 15:28:39 UTC  

I heard feminism is real big in Australia rn, that true?

2019-12-17 15:31:05 UTC  

Yeah sorta, I think it's actually bigger is NZ, but it's pretty bad here.
We've been having bushfires lately, and all the feminists can talk about is how these firefighters (heroes is you ask me) are gonna go home and beat their wives.
It's leaked into our institutions and organisations too
In STEM and the military it's twice as hard to get in as a male, not to mention all the womens only scholarships

2019-12-17 15:32:05 UTC  

ze fuck

2019-12-17 15:32:27 UTC  

And people say the US has it bad

2019-12-17 15:32:46 UTC  

You guys should get your own pol

2019-12-17 15:33:51 UTC  

Holy fuck lmao. Firefighters risking their lives = wifebeaters. They really wanna be oppressed so bad <:pot_of_kek:544849795433496586>

2019-12-17 15:35:04 UTC  

Yeah, funny enough it was the Greens' party who gave that woman the platform in the first place

2019-12-17 15:35:27 UTC  

I wanna petition to get aus_politics

2019-12-17 15:35:51 UTC  

*Watches California annihilate left-wing independent journalists.* Neat...

2019-12-17 15:36:39 UTC  

I think feminists secretely want to get beaten by men so they get some positive attention for a change

2019-12-17 15:36:53 UTC  

I wonder what Freud would have to add to this

2019-12-17 15:37:22 UTC  

Spank me, dayydy, uwu

2019-12-17 15:37:28 UTC  

I love what's happening in Hollywood atm actually, Tim pool talked about it

2019-12-17 15:37:49 UTC  

How females are starting to be the lead stars in some killer good movies