Message from @UnScottable
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We just shouldn't intervene
the only people complaining about that
were zionists
and neocons
and people bought off in our gov
everyone else was happy that we were leaving the kurds to die
i was actually quite happy
Nice framing of the situation @UnScottable
just look at those who complained
Anyway, Trump made a point about NATO getting more involved in the Middle East. If he can make that happen, it'll be a load off the US and more of a shared responsibility.
see thats what we need to do
@Lidomite Let me ask you this, What do we actually gain from being in the Middle East?
@UnScottable I mean you straight up saying "leaving the Kurds to die."
trump made a good point
Stability hasn't exactly increased with a US presence their
We are losing more money then we could ever gain their
i mean yea thats a dramatic way to put it but i like to give the left the frame right and then still say HAH guess what
im glad we left them to die
cuz fuck communist muzzies
Sure, but the vast majority of Americans would disagree with you when presented with that framing.
well you know as well as i do
that its a misleading frame
And that's the rub when shit hits the fan.
Leaving the ME entirely is fantasy. It's not going to happen. There's just too much there and it's clear Trump isn't going to do it. Next best thing is to get the West to play more of a role and it's not just the US taking all the heat.
Then, of course, from there, the US can scale back, because the West has more of a role.
i mean we can still influence the region without boots on the ground
as people saw with the killing of soleimani
Replace US troops with French troops or something.
i think trumps idea to let nato get more involved is a good idea and we can still influence the region
and ALSO might i add
that israel has one of the best militaries in the entire world
they can get their hands dirty to oyou know..
Having Soldiers their is a bad idea especially if the the Government of the country has already asked them to leave
me personally id like us to just provide intelligence to our allies, and then perhaps influence things via targeted attacks when its 100% necessary to save american lives
otherwise we can take a back seat because we dont really need middle eastern oil anymore
The amount of people that picked Europe is hilarious