Message from @JoeyJoestar1337

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2020-01-20 22:57:50 UTC  

So u dont even believe in capital punishment?

2020-01-20 22:58:25 UTC  

the math is in, the trials and investigations to try and ensure we are actually killing a killer costs more than just keeping them there.

2020-01-20 22:59:24 UTC  

also you can't correct killing an innocent person, you can mostly correct imprisoning them

2020-01-20 23:00:03 UTC  

I am ok with capital punishment in the case of supremely overwhelming evidence

2020-01-20 23:00:11 UTC  

but thats not 99% of murder cases

2020-01-20 23:00:42 UTC  

Lmao "general" muderder cases.

2020-01-20 23:00:55 UTC  

And ofc they're going to have a trial right?

2020-01-20 23:01:14 UTC  

Its not like these things happen with a blink of an eye and it's off to the firing squad or a noose.

2020-01-20 23:01:27 UTC  

They're gonna go to trail and make sure it's the guy

2020-01-20 23:02:21 UTC  

death row in texas, just based on confirmed executions had a 5% innocent kill rate

2020-01-20 23:02:44 UTC  

So 95% of the time it was the right purp

2020-01-20 23:03:04 UTC  

5% of people were executed by the state for doing nothing wrong

2020-01-20 23:03:19 UTC  

at least

2020-01-20 23:03:33 UTC  

5+% techinicaly

2020-01-20 23:04:58 UTC  

I am not willing to give the state the power to kill innocent civilians even by accident. Combined with it being cheaper to just keep them in a room I don't see a reason to have a common death penalty

2020-01-20 23:08:47 UTC  

I don't want my tax dollars going for someone to have a sweet seat in prison for the rest of their life.

2020-01-20 23:09:23 UTC  

I'd rather they go tward buying the rope.

2020-01-20 23:13:20 UTC  

Look at the UK man, there's a shit ton of grooming gangs out there that have raped plenty of women and all because they don't want to be called racist they don't jail them properly and even let them out. They can vote, they get set free, and they keep raping and and murdering. This is a nice soft big blanket statement to make yourself sound benevolent but you're talking about a 5% innocent rate over here? They get killed? How many die on job duty at the factory? What's the mortality rate there? Innocents die all the time and it's just how the world is and you can't stop it.

2020-01-20 23:15:47 UTC  

We aren't even talking about the people who are definetly convicted of murder getting hanged anymore. Its just more generally the goal post is kept getting moved to now include these innocents. They get off'd everyday by these same people. And you wanna give them the right to vote?

2020-01-20 23:20:50 UTC  

Say a felon got out anyway. New leaf, became an Orthodox Christian, all the good stuff. Still shouldn't vote. Because it's about the principle of it.

2020-01-20 23:24:18 UTC  

Voting is gay anyway. Think about it. Gays have the right to vote. If you vote you're practically gay yourself.

2020-01-20 23:24:46 UTC  

Jokes lol... or am I? 👀

2020-01-20 23:29:55 UTC  

🦗

2020-01-20 23:53:53 UTC  

`like every guy let out for rape cause he didn't do it`

2020-01-20 23:54:06 UTC  

there is a process to get ur voting rights back

2020-01-20 23:54:10 UTC  

they arent just gone forever lol

2020-01-20 23:54:33 UTC  

Well letem go through it if they're genuine lol

2020-01-20 23:54:49 UTC  

even some convicted felons can get their gun rights back

2020-01-20 23:54:52 UTC  

no lie

2020-01-20 23:55:02 UTC  

depends on the felony and etc. but there is a process to it

2020-01-20 23:55:42 UTC  
2020-01-21 00:15:27 UTC  

Wait you mean there's a system, that can be fair

2020-01-21 00:18:40 UTC  

Criminals shouldn’t vote

2020-01-21 00:19:08 UTC  

Once Parole, Sentence, etc. has ended, they can

2020-01-21 00:21:21 UTC  

There was an article on Wikipedia talking about how 21 States do not allow Felons to vote while serving their sentence

2020-01-21 00:21:41 UTC  

The Article:
Disenfranchisement
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2020-01-21 00:22:19 UTC  

I think being allowed to vote can be given to prisoners as a reward for good behavior.

2020-01-21 00:28:55 UTC  

the institution of the vote does need some reinvigoration

2020-01-21 00:39:39 UTC  

That's sounds too far @Illyrian

2020-01-21 00:39:52 UTC  

Maybe a bowl of ice cream

2020-01-21 00:40:54 UTC  

Imagine if every eligible voter was automatically registered and if they don't vote manually then their vote goes to a random candidate.