We need to make sure that those people aren't stuck in poverty

its the Freedom Dividend

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Well that makes it sound better

Automation replacing people wouldn't be a problem if the minimum wage wasn't so damn high.

UBI basically won't work as you can only make money by taxing the people, and you can't tax people more money than they have. You can't give everyone 12,000 a year without taxing them 12,000 a year

Put the word Freedom on it and it makes it sound more appealing

Automation is also overrated as problem as it is only set to replace a few percents of the economy

Unless the phrase is "America bring Freedom to Iraq".
I'm sorry I couldn't resist.

Like 4% replacement of workers is not really enough to justify giving the other 96% 12,000 dollars

you won't make that much money via taxing automated industries

it's just not there

The point is that it should replace more

12,000 dollars a person is just not pluasible

Automation can take the burden off of the American Workers

And in order to stop mass unemployment either we can use UBI

That's like 3 trillion dollars, which results in like, in comparison to our existing 4 trillion dollar budget, a 75% increase

mass employment

Wat

In most cases the State will just be giving back some of the money they have taxed

What if they stopped dumping most of our tax dollars into corporate subsidies

employment is a good thing; but nonetheless, it would be better just to have workers work like one day a week or something rather than never have them work at all. You sitll need some workers to run the machines, so just have them run the machines for less work rather than no work. It's the only really fair and logical system

eh most of our tax dollars are not in to corporate subsidies

it's so many 10's of billions of dollars

i think UBI is dumb

why?

just a gut feeling

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Even if indirect figures are included, it's like 100 billion dollars

for all corporate subsidies potentially

I think it is the policy we absolutely need for the future

less than that for direct corporate subsidies

i would look into Yang's proposed ways to pay for a UBI, like a VAT tax, and transaction tax.

I currently work for minimum wage, but I still want the minimum wage to be lower.

I lose A LOT of sleep over the fear I'll be laid off for a high minimum wage.

UBI is just impractical. The better way of dealing with automation is just to mandate the workers work less hours for the same pay

The Minimum wage doesn't really help that much

It just creates problems.

There’s too many people for UBI

UBI is helpful because it erases many financial concerns for people

A UBI for all americans becuase some people might lose their jobs due to automation is just impracticla