Message from @psyxypher

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2020-01-26 00:53:03 UTC  

If you took all the money, and then you give every Person $100,000, those who were once Wealthy will likely become wealthy again, and the Poors will lose it all immediately

2020-01-26 00:53:09 UTC  

No one understands basic economics. I'm willing to bet most of the people in my town have never heard the term "Price Ceiling" before.

2020-01-26 00:55:27 UTC  

@psyxypher The problem with this video is that it describes a very Authoritarian society which in my view could never really be a Utopia

2020-01-26 00:56:00 UTC  

The Society being described for example forces people to work for 2 years

2020-01-26 00:56:08 UTC  

That doesn't really seem like a Utopia

2020-01-26 00:56:49 UTC  

That's *always* how it starts.

2020-01-26 00:56:49 UTC  

I understand the point that the idea of a Utopia for some is a Dystopia for others

2020-01-26 00:57:03 UTC  

But that isn't always the case

2020-01-26 00:57:57 UTC  

I think the best way for a Utopia to function would be a Government with Socially Democratic Bernie Sanders Style Economic Policy while also maintaining a Libertarian approach to Social Policy and intervening with the lives of citizens

2020-01-26 00:58:13 UTC  

if you unironically think humanity will ever reach a point of Utopia....

2020-01-26 00:58:18 UTC  

i dont know what i can do for you mate.

2020-01-26 00:58:23 UTC  

I do.

2020-01-26 00:58:28 UTC  

Explain why he's wrong.

2020-01-26 00:58:32 UTC  

I think we could reach it in a few lifetimes

2020-01-26 00:58:49 UTC  

well you're a more patient man then I am. Thats for certain @psyxypher

2020-01-26 00:58:49 UTC  

Of course it depends on your definition

2020-01-26 00:59:13 UTC  

The problem is that your method requires the fatal flaw that destroys every Socialist state.
Government Power.

2020-01-26 00:59:29 UTC  

The Government would be restricted though

2020-01-26 00:59:50 UTC  

That's why it should have one Socially Democratic Element and one Libertarian Element

2020-01-26 00:59:58 UTC  

A Utopia is just simply not possible. even if we achieved a point where scarcity of resources is eliminated

2020-01-26 01:00:22 UTC  

I think you're looking at a Libertarian state, not a socialist one.
Styxhexenhammer is a libertarian who thinks we should have some social safety net.

2020-01-26 01:00:45 UTC  

Some Socialist Policies would be needed

2020-01-26 01:01:09 UTC  

In my view a Free Market is not possible in a Utopia

2020-01-26 01:01:32 UTC  

The Government would have to have a high amount of control over the economy

2020-01-26 01:02:12 UTC  

The Free Market could never ensure that everyone is able to live a comfortable life without working at all

2020-01-26 01:02:24 UTC  

The only way an Authoritarian utopia would work is if the residents are unaware of the existence of other groups or nations outside of their own

2020-01-26 01:02:49 UTC  

I don't think an Authoritarian society could be a Utopia

2020-01-26 01:03:16 UTC  

Freedom is needed

2020-01-26 01:03:26 UTC  

A Utopia is not possible.

2020-01-26 01:03:28 UTC  

Ever.

2020-01-26 01:03:35 UTC  

How are you defining it?

2020-01-26 01:03:40 UTC  

Humans would just get bored, and tear it apart lol

2020-01-26 01:03:50 UTC  

just to see what would happen

2020-01-26 01:03:56 UTC  

I consider a Utopia to be a society where people live in freedom and are able to live a comfortable life without working

2020-01-26 01:03:59 UTC  

you might not... but someone would

2020-01-26 01:04:10 UTC  

We can maintain a police force

2020-01-26 01:04:20 UTC  

There should still be laws

2020-01-26 01:04:26 UTC  

We shouldn't be living in Anarchy

2020-01-26 01:04:27 UTC  

so there would still be work

2020-01-26 01:04:47 UTC  

In the future we could attempt to use Automation and AI for a police force

2020-01-26 01:05:02 UTC  

if that happens im <:thinkcide:462282415549841409>