TEL wants WALL-E IRL

I want to reach Utopia

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It's possible and it is what we should be aiming for

I was more thinking of something involving bringing back old style gladiator games because there's so many bored people.

@The Electric Lizard Utopia is just dystopia.

when i was first researching a UBI, i found this study insightful. https://rooseveltinstitute.org/modeling-macroeconomic-effects-ubi/

@psyxypher ?

But those are contradictory terms

Hold up for a second.

Utopia isn't completely possible but we can take efforts to get closer to it

Would you mind if I got a video for reference?

Ensuring very few people have to work would be a stop towars it

@psyxypher Not reallu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDeMzg31T2I

UBI wouldn’t solve the Main issue of Americans being Financially Illiterate

@The Electric Lizard Thank ye.

Adeptus, you've hit it on the nose.

We don't need them to be

If you took all the money, and then you give every Person $100,000, those who were once Wealthy will likely become wealthy again, and the Poors will lose it all immediately

No one understands basic economics. I'm willing to bet most of the people in my town have never heard the term "Price Ceiling" before.

@psyxypher The problem with this video is that it describes a very Authoritarian society which in my view could never really be a Utopia

The Society being described for example forces people to work for 2 years

That doesn't really seem like a Utopia

That's *always* how it starts.

I understand the point that the idea of a Utopia for some is a Dystopia for others

But that isn't always the case

I think the best way for a Utopia to function would be a Government with Socially Democratic Bernie Sanders Style Economic Policy while also maintaining a Libertarian approach to Social Policy and intervening with the lives of citizens

if you unironically think humanity will ever reach a point of Utopia....

i dont know what i can do for you mate.

I do.

Explain why he's wrong.

I think we could reach it in a few lifetimes

well you're a more patient man then I am. Thats for certain @psyxypher

Of course it depends on your definition

The problem is that your method requires the fatal flaw that destroys every Socialist state.
Government Power.

The Government would be restricted though

That's why it should have one Socially Democratic Element and one Libertarian Element

A Utopia is just simply not possible. even if we achieved a point where scarcity of resources is eliminated

I think you're looking at a Libertarian state, not a socialist one.
Styxhexenhammer is a libertarian who thinks we should have some social safety net.

Some Socialist Policies would be needed