Message from @psyxypher
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I was more thinking of something involving bringing back old style gladiator games because there's so many bored people.
@The Electric Lizard Utopia is just dystopia.
when i was first researching a UBI, i found this study insightful. https://rooseveltinstitute.org/modeling-macroeconomic-effects-ubi/
But those are contradictory terms
Hold up for a second.
Utopia isn't completely possible but we can take efforts to get closer to it
Would you mind if I got a video for reference?
Ensuring very few people have to work would be a stop towars it
@psyxypher Not reallu
UBI wouldn’t solve the Main issue of Americans being Financially Illiterate
@The Electric Lizard Thank ye.
Adeptus, you've hit it on the nose.
We don't need them to be
If you took all the money, and then you give every Person $100,000, those who were once Wealthy will likely become wealthy again, and the Poors will lose it all immediately
No one understands basic economics. I'm willing to bet most of the people in my town have never heard the term "Price Ceiling" before.
@psyxypher The problem with this video is that it describes a very Authoritarian society which in my view could never really be a Utopia
The Society being described for example forces people to work for 2 years
That doesn't really seem like a Utopia
I understand the point that the idea of a Utopia for some is a Dystopia for others
But that isn't always the case
I think the best way for a Utopia to function would be a Government with Socially Democratic Bernie Sanders Style Economic Policy while also maintaining a Libertarian approach to Social Policy and intervening with the lives of citizens
if you unironically think humanity will ever reach a point of Utopia....
i dont know what i can do for you mate.
I do.
Explain why he's wrong.
I think we could reach it in a few lifetimes
well you're a more patient man then I am. Thats for certain @psyxypher
Of course it depends on your definition
The problem is that your method requires the fatal flaw that destroys every Socialist state.
Government Power.
The Government would be restricted though
That's why it should have one Socially Democratic Element and one Libertarian Element
A Utopia is just simply not possible. even if we achieved a point where scarcity of resources is eliminated
I think you're looking at a Libertarian state, not a socialist one.
Styxhexenhammer is a libertarian who thinks we should have some social safety net.
Some Socialist Policies would be needed
In my view a Free Market is not possible in a Utopia
The Government would have to have a high amount of control over the economy
The Free Market could never ensure that everyone is able to live a comfortable life without working at all
The only way an Authoritarian utopia would work is if the residents are unaware of the existence of other groups or nations outside of their own