Message from @Jokerfaic
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they never said "free market caused starvation"
it's gonna take like 50 min for me to go back over all of it.
more then that really
take your time, you won't find any anti-capitalist rhetoric
that just wasn't a point mentioned. ever.
all i remember is there was an undertone at the time that mixed with everything else they were doing at the time got me to stop listening to them.
the larges lesson that should have been learned form all of that is "this is why you diversify your crops"
they laid out very plainly that while the root cause of the famine was a biological malady, it was exaserbated by apathy and general contempt for Catholic Irish in Protestant British parliament
and also, as a side note, a desire to not interfere with market forces
that's not saying "free markets killed people"
I haven't even gotten through the first half of the first vid, can you give me a bit?
whatever :/
well if that's how you are gonna be I won't spend the hour of time to find my train of thought at the time.
I don't trust them for several reasons, nither their game design stuff or their history stuff.
fine and well, just saying your complaint was unfounded
and your assertion that my complaint is unfounded is also unfounded but i'm not gonna take the time to dig into the points i had at the time.
you claimed they blamed the famine on free markets... that's just demonstrably false
look, I already said i'm not gonna watch the hour of chatter to find the points that made me distrust them, and no it wasn't an open "the free markets caused this" but there was very much shade of that flavor in there somewhere.
if you trust them you are more then welcome to do so, this is just one point where i stopped trusting them.
what, pointing out a free market philosophy a hundred fucking years ago wasn't flawless is "shadey?!"
jesus christ
couldn't just out and say "eh, not for me, I don't like em" you have to be fucking melodramatic and say they've "betrayed your trust" and reach for the fucking stars for a reason
let me ask you this then, if the "extra credits" series is open to bias how can the "extra history" series made by the same people not be open to the same bias?
because one is explaining and speculating about material that is far more open to interpretation
their history isn't the most *extensive* material on the subject, as such I myself have found where their clips have gaps in detail, but not to any ideological advantage or disadvantage
if you say so, but that's not enough for me.
you literally pitched a fucking fit because they had one criticism of century old economic theory
I don't remember what it was exactly, that's why i was gonna go back and relisten to it.
I know something they said had upset me at the time and i don't remember what it was.
what, they're not open and honest enough about the clear negative consequences of socialism for you?
"I don't remember what it was exactly"
could have been a single thing i took out of context, might have been several things that all added up.
I don't remember, but I don't care enough to go back and check now.
it's nearly an hour of listening to something and i don't want to spend that time.
christ, "I don't like the new narrator" would have been a more substancial complaint
one I would have agreed with
I liked the first one more
the diffrence of narrator didn't really bother me at all.
it was a little jarring, bt got used to him
also the addition of a cat helped
Don't mean to jump in on this, but @Jokerfaic is being kind of a whiny bitch in this conversation
It really wouldn't have gotten to me if his complaint wasn't built on fucking air
I mean it's a personall reason, so it doesn't need to be build on anything other then what i say it needs to be.
likely its built on several things includeing how i was feeling at the time about the topics touched on.