Message from @Jokerfaic
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yah more or less
Extra History has been my main staple
I have them in the background allot while doing chores and whatnot
@Jokerfaic even after that videogames cause violence bs they pulled?
the extra credit guys seemed to be good at first, but last time i listened to them i was like "yah these guys have jumped the railing, not gonna spend any time with them anymore"
their 'credits' series is open to bias, yeah, but their history playlists are objective
I dissagree
how so?
was their irish famen one that made me stop trusting them.
they wanted to say that somehow it was free markets that caused said famen.
.... no... that's not at all what was said
Ireland was a net exporter of food during the famine
I have no idea where you got that
It was just potatoes
I don't remember all of what was said, but if you like i can go back and listen to it again to point said points out.
they mentioned that the prevailing factions in british parliament were split over market philosophies
they never said "free market caused starvation"
it's gonna take like 50 min for me to go back over all of it.
more then that really
take your time, you won't find any anti-capitalist rhetoric
all i remember is there was an undertone at the time that mixed with everything else they were doing at the time got me to stop listening to them.
the larges lesson that should have been learned form all of that is "this is why you diversify your crops"
they laid out very plainly that while the root cause of the famine was a biological malady, it was exaserbated by apathy and general contempt for Catholic Irish in Protestant British parliament
and also, as a side note, a desire to not interfere with market forces
that's not saying "free markets killed people"
I haven't even gotten through the first half of the first vid, can you give me a bit?
whatever :/
well if that's how you are gonna be I won't spend the hour of time to find my train of thought at the time.
I don't trust them for several reasons, nither their game design stuff or their history stuff.
fine and well, just saying your complaint was unfounded
and your assertion that my complaint is unfounded is also unfounded but i'm not gonna take the time to dig into the points i had at the time.
you claimed they blamed the famine on free markets... that's just demonstrably false
look, I already said i'm not gonna watch the hour of chatter to find the points that made me distrust them, and no it wasn't an open "the free markets caused this" but there was very much shade of that flavor in there somewhere.
if you trust them you are more then welcome to do so, this is just one point where i stopped trusting them.
what, pointing out a free market philosophy a hundred fucking years ago wasn't flawless is "shadey?!"
jesus christ
couldn't just out and say "eh, not for me, I don't like em" you have to be fucking melodramatic and say they've "betrayed your trust" and reach for the fucking stars for a reason
let me ask you this then, if the "extra credits" series is open to bias how can the "extra history" series made by the same people not be open to the same bias?
because one is explaining and speculating about material that is far more open to interpretation
their history isn't the most *extensive* material on the subject, as such I myself have found where their clips have gaps in detail, but not to any ideological advantage or disadvantage
if you say so, but that's not enough for me.