Message from @ARockRaider

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2020-01-31 03:28:48 UTC  

was their irish famen one that made me stop trusting them.

2020-01-31 03:29:02 UTC  

they wanted to say that somehow it was free markets that caused said famen.

2020-01-31 03:29:17 UTC  

.... no... that's not at all what was said

2020-01-31 03:29:21 UTC  

Ireland was a net exporter of food during the famine

2020-01-31 03:29:33 UTC  

I have no idea where you got that

2020-01-31 03:29:43 UTC  

It was just potatoes

2020-01-31 03:29:55 UTC  

I don't remember all of what was said, but if you like i can go back and listen to it again to point said points out.

2020-01-31 03:30:02 UTC  

they mentioned that the prevailing factions in british parliament were split over market philosophies

2020-01-31 03:30:18 UTC  

they never said "free market caused starvation"

2020-01-31 03:31:57 UTC  

it's gonna take like 50 min for me to go back over all of it.

2020-01-31 03:32:01 UTC  

more then that really

2020-01-31 03:32:14 UTC  

take your time, you won't find any anti-capitalist rhetoric

2020-01-31 03:32:30 UTC  

that just wasn't a point mentioned. ever.

2020-01-31 03:33:05 UTC  

all i remember is there was an undertone at the time that mixed with everything else they were doing at the time got me to stop listening to them.

2020-01-31 03:33:40 UTC  

the larges lesson that should have been learned form all of that is "this is why you diversify your crops"

2020-01-31 03:34:09 UTC  

they laid out very plainly that while the root cause of the famine was a biological malady, it was exaserbated by apathy and general contempt for Catholic Irish in Protestant British parliament

2020-01-31 03:35:08 UTC  

and also, as a side note, a desire to not interfere with market forces

2020-01-31 03:35:20 UTC  

that's not saying "free markets killed people"

2020-01-31 03:35:52 UTC  

I haven't even gotten through the first half of the first vid, can you give me a bit?

2020-01-31 03:36:10 UTC  

whatever :/

2020-01-31 03:37:59 UTC  

well if that's how you are gonna be I won't spend the hour of time to find my train of thought at the time.
I don't trust them for several reasons, nither their game design stuff or their history stuff.

2020-01-31 03:39:11 UTC  

fine and well, just saying your complaint was unfounded

2020-01-31 03:40:06 UTC  

and your assertion that my complaint is unfounded is also unfounded but i'm not gonna take the time to dig into the points i had at the time.

2020-01-31 03:40:44 UTC  

you claimed they blamed the famine on free markets... that's just demonstrably false

2020-01-31 03:41:57 UTC  

look, I already said i'm not gonna watch the hour of chatter to find the points that made me distrust them, and no it wasn't an open "the free markets caused this" but there was very much shade of that flavor in there somewhere.

2020-01-31 03:42:31 UTC  

if you trust them you are more then welcome to do so, this is just one point where i stopped trusting them.

2020-01-31 03:43:41 UTC  

what, pointing out a free market philosophy a hundred fucking years ago wasn't flawless is "shadey?!"

2020-01-31 03:44:03 UTC  

jesus christ

2020-01-31 03:46:44 UTC  

couldn't just out and say "eh, not for me, I don't like em" you have to be fucking melodramatic and say they've "betrayed your trust" and reach for the fucking stars for a reason

2020-01-31 03:48:03 UTC  

let me ask you this then, if the "extra credits" series is open to bias how can the "extra history" series made by the same people not be open to the same bias?

2020-01-31 03:48:49 UTC  

because one is explaining and speculating about material that is far more open to interpretation

2020-01-31 03:50:17 UTC  

their history isn't the most *extensive* material on the subject, as such I myself have found where their clips have gaps in detail, but not to any ideological advantage or disadvantage

2020-01-31 03:51:00 UTC  

if you say so, but that's not enough for me.

2020-01-31 03:51:08 UTC  

you literally pitched a fucking fit because they had one criticism of century old economic theory

2020-01-31 03:51:59 UTC  

I don't remember what it was exactly, that's why i was gonna go back and relisten to it.
I know something they said had upset me at the time and i don't remember what it was.

2020-01-31 03:52:14 UTC  

what, they're not open and honest enough about the clear negative consequences of socialism for you?

2020-01-31 03:52:33 UTC  

"I don't remember what it was exactly"

2020-01-31 03:53:31 UTC  

could have been a single thing i took out of context, might have been several things that all added up.
I don't remember, but I don't care enough to go back and check now.

2020-01-31 03:53:55 UTC  

it's nearly an hour of listening to something and i don't want to spend that time.

2020-01-31 03:54:00 UTC  

christ, "I don't like the new narrator" would have been a more substancial complaint

2020-01-31 03:54:16 UTC  

one I would have agreed with