Message from @ARockRaider

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2020-02-04 20:48:20 UTC  

Thats fucking hilarious

2020-02-04 20:50:31 UTC  

@TheGhostAgent a false equivalency

2020-02-04 20:50:43 UTC  

a tiny local bakery is just that

2020-02-04 20:50:45 UTC  

one among many

2020-02-04 20:50:52 UTC  

a social media platform is a media monopoly

2020-02-04 20:51:02 UTC  

they have different rights and different expectations

2020-02-04 20:52:27 UTC  

a local bakery isnt sucking the government teat under the pretense of freedom for all

2020-02-04 20:54:36 UTC  

A local bakery answers to different regs as does a social media platform, but that doesn't make either fully unregulated. While a bakery answers to the local health/food ordinance. These platforms answer to the FCC.

The problem is the companies straddling both venues of a 'platform' and 'distributor'. atm there are other alternative media already in existence to compete.
Patreon -> SubscribeStar
YTube -> bitChute
FB -> minds.com
Google -> duckduckgo
Just a few examples.

2020-02-04 20:55:12 UTC  

You might have a point if there can be no existing competitor to come into market

2020-02-04 20:56:29 UTC  

the government doesnt give competitotrs the same benefit it does th eoligarchs

2020-02-04 20:56:38 UTC  

making it a government funded monopoly

2020-02-04 20:57:30 UTC  

Then that's a govt/reg problem, not google. Also, if ppl don't switch their preferred service provider and boycott these corporations, they only have themselves to blame.

2020-02-04 20:58:00 UTC  

hay remember when Sargon went over to SubscribeStar?
remember all the pain SubscribeStar had to deal with because of that?

2020-02-04 20:58:41 UTC  

so while I agree, if a platform can't be changed go out and make your own, there is also a problem where that isn't always an option.

2020-02-04 20:59:41 UTC  

corporations work together to crush competition

2020-02-04 20:59:44 UTC  

Hence when I said there's only a problem if there are no alternatives or an avenue to make one. As for subscribestar having to deal w/it, they got pass it. Now ppl are using it more and patreon is eating dirt.

2020-02-04 20:59:50 UTC  

in dirrect opposition to federal anti trust laws

2020-02-04 21:00:13 UTC  

(also ill point out the answer isn't more government, just tell these platforms they are now counted as publishers if they want to act this way)

2020-02-04 21:00:46 UTC  

The answer of 'govt' is simple.
Choose one. Publisher or Platform, can't have both.

2020-02-04 21:00:53 UTC  

right

2020-02-04 21:01:21 UTC  

youtube for example wants the benifits of bolth with the downsides of nither.

2020-02-04 21:02:21 UTC  

Anti-Sniffing Cone

2020-02-04 21:02:22 UTC  

G/YT/FB, etc. Now if he wants to take the suit on forcing the issue of having the companies choose 1 or FCC to clamp down on them, I'd be all for it. Not for making them accept his content

2020-02-04 21:02:48 UTC  

I agree with that.

2020-02-04 21:03:28 UTC  

You're talk of adhering to protocol is moot when the people on top actively don't, being on the side of "Just make your own platform" escalates all the way to 'make your own government' that's not recourse for improper action within a system

2020-02-04 21:03:56 UTC  

When people prevent you from doing that or cripple possible success to a point it dies

2020-02-04 21:04:05 UTC  

...wut? We appeared to have skipped some lvls here

2020-02-04 21:04:31 UTC  
2020-02-04 21:06:34 UTC  

that is a good point, the type of people we are talking about do act that way.
"ok ill try makeing a twitter knock off with free speach as a core value"
-NO! you have bad people on there! make it so they don't have assess vital services!
"ok fine, we will start building our own version of those services as well"
and then they kinda do the same thing on the next level.

2020-02-04 21:08:01 UTC  

until they get to the point of saying stuff like "well if you don't like it you need to make your own government!"
never mind that as soon as we try they will make war against such new governments, so unless we can be on par with the strongest countries in the world right out of the gate it's gonna be a moot point.

2020-02-04 21:09:36 UTC  

...yea this is pretty extreme on the slippery slope argument. Going into civil war/new govt/separatist movement out of a social media spat? Gonna call BS on that This problem can easily be solved by making the existing firms choose 1. Platform or Publisher. We don't need a revolution to solve that.

2020-02-04 21:10:21 UTC  

it doesn't happen that fast sure, but that slope is already paved.

2020-02-04 21:11:23 UTC  

DNC civil war yes

2020-02-04 21:11:28 UTC  

American civil war no

2020-02-04 21:29:52 UTC  

see right now there is a very real problem where one side of the conversation thinks that anyone who isn't totally on bord with their world view must be the worst evil that has ever walked the earth.

2020-02-04 21:30:25 UTC  

and so that side can justify anything they do to the other people, because those other people are the worst evil that has ever walked the earth.

2020-02-04 21:36:07 UTC  

Considering the Dems have shown themselves to be incredibly violent. From BLM to antifa
From a leftist bernie supporter shooting at Repubs at a ballpark
To a letist shooting at ICE and trying to firebomb a facility
To another leftist shooter that got memory holed the moment MSM found out he was a hardcare leftist....
To Rand Paul getting mauled/sucker punched by his neighbor where he had to have surgery on his lung.
The list keeps going.

2020-02-04 21:36:53 UTC  

The Democrats won't be able to conduct a civil war like the 1st one, but they'll certainly start up skirmishes around the country. It'll get put down quick, but they still pose a threat

2020-02-04 21:37:32 UTC  

They have both the will and insanity to follow through

2020-02-04 21:39:27 UTC  

speaking of memory holed shooters, were there any highprofile shootings done by people who lean toward freedom in the past few years?