wait what?

hes not a commie

is and old school dem

Absolute commie.

"old school dems" are commies.

Fdr ultimate commie.

so billy clinton is a commie

Yes

`Meaning he's commie but hates commie than says commies bad but Trump bad too. So vote for commie. But commies rig. So don't vote for commie?` wtf are you saying dude lmao, that made no coherent sense

hes trolling

probably

99%sure

@xlD4NKlx Tim pool says that.

maybe he is new to politics ;/

Not saying it's coherent.

@Louis explain ur problems with communism, whether economic or even social

@xlD4NKlx communism killed more people in the world than any other group in history.

mine are its inherently impossible and it always becomes tyranny because of that

That's #1

its not communism itself, its the incompetency of the government, which fucked over their citizens and didn't prioritize them, for example in ww2. Mao-china and Stalin-china gave up alot of their people and land in order to fight back and showed no signs of actually valuing bettering their lives. Not communism itself, this is a common misconception.

Cow shit > Hitler > stalin

Communism is complete government control.

that is a dumb take, and i don't think its misinformed by anything, personally i think they are all bad but ordering them linearly like that serves no purpose. And not necesarilly, there is no set way of communism, there is alot of different types

no communism as a concept is fundamentally flawed

Ends up the same regardless.

Might as well try facism again.

yep hes trolling

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sure communism may be flawed but thats besides the point, communism itself didn't kill those people, the lack of Mao-china and stalin-ussr caring for their citiziens and incompetency did

Facism has killed less people than communism.

Yet "true communism" hasn't been tried yet.

dude... that is such a dumb metric of looking at a better system tbh and i just refuted why communism itself didn't and if anything stalin-ussr can be considered as fascist-socialist

okay man, chill out buddy, your points are being less and less coherent @Louis

By that logic "true facism" hasn't been tried yet.

lmao? That makes no coherent sense, you are equivocating two different things lmao

@xlD4NKlx I mean communism is inherently impossible to achive on a national level and is always doomed to become a dictatorship

Either way they are effectively two sides of the same coin.

well it does because of vanguards states which do and im not even communist btw but lets play devils advocate i guess. It could work in a small state with strong nationalism and a centralised government i suppose @brett0007wastaken

Literal wut @xlD4NKlx

I'm not sure it even works there, wouldn't a prime example be the Kibbutzim?

@kaolbrec my thoughts exactly.