Ends up the same regardless.

Might as well try facism again.

yep hes trolling

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sure communism may be flawed but thats besides the point, communism itself didn't kill those people, the lack of Mao-china and stalin-ussr caring for their citiziens and incompetency did

Facism has killed less people than communism.

Yet "true communism" hasn't been tried yet.

dude... that is such a dumb metric of looking at a better system tbh and i just refuted why communism itself didn't and if anything stalin-ussr can be considered as fascist-socialist

okay man, chill out buddy, your points are being less and less coherent @Louis

By that logic "true facism" hasn't been tried yet.

lmao? That makes no coherent sense, you are equivocating two different things lmao

@xlD4NKlx I mean communism is inherently impossible to achive on a national level and is always doomed to become a dictatorship

Either way they are effectively two sides of the same coin.

well it does because of vanguards states which do and im not even communist btw but lets play devils advocate i guess. It could work in a small state with strong nationalism and a centralised government i suppose @brett0007wastaken

Literal wut @xlD4NKlx

I'm not sure it even works there, wouldn't a prime example be the Kibbutzim?

@kaolbrec my thoughts exactly.

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not really lmao, they are entirely different. And explain in ur words which aren't sargons takes @Louis

@xlD4NKlxna-zi national socialist

how is kibbutzim relevant? And i don't really consume far right media anymore so im unaware of the talking points relating this.

Communism is progression of socialism.

LMAO the nazis were literally the opposite of socialist and hated them, if you were taught history right they would have explained this and they were just fascists

bruhhhh how many people keep making this flawed point.... so much misconceptions...

@xlD4NKlx normie I see.

i don't see how that is relevant, but okay.. its literally what happened dude...........

Facism and communism is Extremely similar. To the point where a few things change and you are fascist or communist.

Name one thing that isn't property rights that they differ on.

not really lmao, explain in ur words why? They are on extreme poles on the political axis to help you better understand and communism and fascism have historically hated eachother if that means anything to you.

well for a start humans are hard wired to be competative and resorce horders because for 99% of our history that meant basic food and survival, and you cant overcome that. the reason capitolism works so well compared is because as a system it expliots that nature to generate and distribute resorces

"hated each other so different" how retarded.

i mean they disagree on many things socially, economically especially lmao but i can't narrow down one specific thing as communism varies alot.

Shia and sunni for example.

Is like facism and communism.

The Kibbutz are relevant because they were collectivist-socialist (to one degree or another) small, tightly-knit communities. And eventually all of them abandoned those principles as they ran up against the limitations of that type of living as well as influence from the outside world. I suppose you might just dismiss that as Socialist =/= Communist but whatever.

okay buddy, dont call me retarded and state nazis were socialist, also shias are a relatively tiny minority and i believe if i recall correctly make up about 10 percent

@xlD4NKlx it's in the fucking name.

Na-zi

okay im done lmao

They were the NSDP weren't they? National Socialist Deutsch Workers Party

and north korea is a democratic republic