not just in battle.. but in economical sense too... any communist state vs capitalist states

"basic shit" isn't an excuse and lmao why do i need to substantiate your points when you are the one doing this.

damn i've been reading back but i haven't seen *you* link to any scientific paper on why communism would work

if its so basic then substnaite it

thats like saying... substantiate that humans can breathe... just look at the world around you

@Crafty im not a communist and i asked for their takes since they are the ones making that arguement and also its an economic article but they can be refuted and such and aren't necesarilly indicitive of human behaviour all the time lmao

thats a flawed arguement because that example is self-evidental, however this isn't and you are pretty much lying at this point if you don't substantiate it @wacka

it is self evident

so your stance is to just devil's advocate for communism without any evidence for it being a good idea.. okay

next you'll be telling us Labour failed miserably.. but that wasnt real socialism

@xlD4NKlx also you are objectivly wrong on the reason humans are sucessful, coopertive hunting is not the sole reason we suceeded, most canines and lions/hyenas are far better adapted to natually kill in packs, it was a combination of tool use and stamina that saw us exel at persistance hunting.

what? kinda but i don't see how the evidence part is applicable lmao, in this scenario, this guy made a pseudo-scientific point about "basic human behaviour" however he needs to substantiate it with evidence and also anyone can just make up shit like this and spreading misinformation is fucked up @Crafty

yes and you are just making unsubsantiated claims

"guys, wolves can beat a group of sheep"... OMG thats misinformation and fakenews! Im telling the ministry of truth!!

you claims are a baseless as mine atm

sure, you need to use a holistic method to measure why we succeeded but if this is "basic" as you claim then why can't you just give some evidence of some sort

not really? You are mongering pseudo-science which can be proven, however im speaking about social science, i am really confused why you are equivocating the two lmao

@wacka lmao... can you try to give an arguement why you disagree, and your joke was pathetic lmao so it failed twice as hard

also your use of pseudo-science is incorrect pseudocience is non scientific study that is presented as science, not incorrect or outdated views

the joke wasnt mine... the joke is what you said

sure thats one definition but you saying, `except geed fundamentally is, the asshole apeman on the savannah that can horde the most resorces is the one most lighly to survive, greed is an inherent positive trait an animal because survival above all else is the game` is sorta made up and comes out of nowhere

@wacka LMAO, are you playing dumb at this point dude

the fact that you think what you said is a joke is also funny

except it does not

@wacka ok good job, i won't take you seriously for a long time, lmao `the joke wasnt mine... the joke is what you said` then goes to say just after, `the fact that you think what you said is a joke is also funny`

we're talking about social sciences and you're banging on about "spreading misinformation" 😛

also i want to see your sauce on your claim about social groups being the main reason of human sucess

LMAO, he is talking about something that can scientifically be proven and science has looked into dude, LOL @wacka so ur point is weak

if were going to play the sauce game back your shit up too

I dont even know what point you are talking about... Im talking about what I said

sauce lmao, and i get what you are doing now, instead of actually substantiating your claims you are just going to ask questions and make me substantiate them for you. Nah dude im not gonna play that game lmao

whats my claim that I need to substantiate?

How about something like this: https://academic.oup.com/jmammal/article/87/3/571/899184

```North American desert rodents in the family Heteromyidae live in an unpredictable environment characterized by extremes in temperature and food availability; therefore, *the ability to hoard food is a vital adaptation*.
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The claim was about "greed" and the hoarding of resources, wasn't it?

sure but i don't see how you can compare that to humans in any way as we are distinct species

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-50972123

so your argument is that there is safety in numbers?

`Over the last million years or so, people evolved the ability to learn from each other, creating the possibility of cumulative, cultural evolution.`

`Humans cooperate on a larger scale than most other mammals. Among social mammals, cooperation is mainly limited to relatives`

https://www.reddit.com/r/ukpolitics/comments/ejugps/outdated_it_leaves_nhs_staff_with_15_different/fd1d5l8/

``My hospital clinic has pushed back the first patient of the days appointment by 15 minutes due to the amount of time it takes for the computers to boot up in the morning.

Once in, it takes me fully 2 minutes to load internet explorer on my clinic computer. About a further 45 seconds to load google search page whenever I search something.``