I thought all the disableds had been literally killed by the Tories already

leg disabled

Nah weren't they cut in half with all the homeless people?

If all the disabled people are removed from any records, then there'll be no unemployed disabled people

libdems seem liberal

apart from wanting a whole unelected authoritarian layer of government over us against our will

it's appointed by an elected body

And ramping up hate speech

not elected by us

i don't think hate speech laws are inherently anti-liberal

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Vague ones that imprison ordinary people are

you dont think laws telling people what they can and cant think are anti-authoritarian.... okie...

well it's not think is it

p.much

no it's what you say on a public platform

how many times have they arrested people and put their own context into it... just "assuming what they think"

Incitement is illegal and should be, but everything else should be fine

I see June is making retarded statements again

Libdems Liberal <:pepelaugh:544857300179877898>

it's about the message it conveys

Lmao

if you accept that certain speech impedes on the liberty of certain groups then i think it's hard to make the case that the suppression of speech is inherently illiberal

Do you think speech has the same effects as action?

the best case against that i suppose would be that it infringes on the notion between the division of the state and civil sphere

but of course even then laws against incitement already do that

i mean speech is an action, but obviously it doesn't have the same effects as a non-speech action

From spec:. "It is time to ditch the Notting Hill assumption that the best thing one can do for northerners is to let them come to London a little bit faster. Far better if HS2 is folded into a project for improving transport links between (and within) cities in the north of England, and other areas crying out for the investment"

This

Even 60 miles north of London there's little East to West

HS2 can carry freight too, but otherwise, yeah that would probably make sense

It's also getting extended farther north

Bring London up north. Let them learn of real England <:hypersmugon:544638648721604608>

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pot

Need a new great fire of london

@Death in June thats the thing about liberty, its not supposed to be about the groups, its about the individual

when you put the groups above the individual, thats not liberal.. thats anti-liberal

i don't see how that runs counter to protecting individuals from impediments on their liberty because they are targeted by virtue of the group they are a part of

thats what I am saying... protect the individual

yeah that's generally the states purpose of hate speech laws