Message from @wacka

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2020-01-10 13:46:05 UTC  

but cant hurt anyone with it

2020-01-10 13:46:28 UTC  

on an island on your own, you cant take property from anyone else

2020-01-10 13:46:38 UTC  

why can you own property in the first place

2020-01-10 13:46:44 UTC  

ownership is exclusionary

2020-01-10 13:46:57 UTC  

you can't exclude anyone from using anything in a scenario where you're the only person

2020-01-10 13:47:44 UTC  

but nobody owns your opinions

2020-01-10 13:48:18 UTC  

it's not the opinion that's being punished necessarily, but you expressing it

2020-01-10 13:48:26 UTC  

i mean you could argue that intent plays a factor, but that's true of most crimes

2020-01-10 13:49:57 UTC  

I dont really think theres much difference in having and opinion and expressing an opinion

2020-01-10 13:50:06 UTC  

and i mean of course, i don't think liberalism is necessarily contingent on this hardline conception of self-ownership

2020-01-10 13:50:16 UTC  

are you saying everyone should just shut up and not share any opinion in case it offends someone?

2020-01-10 13:50:17 UTC  

of course there's a difference

2020-01-10 13:50:38 UTC  

i'm not saying anybody do anything i'm just saying i don't necessarily think suppression of speech is inherently anti-liberal

2020-01-10 13:51:06 UTC  

its about the most anti-liberal thing I can think of

2020-01-10 13:51:11 UTC  

i mean i think the best argument that it is would be that it infringes on the division between the state and civil society, but of course, there's already precedence for this in things like anti-incitement laws

2020-01-10 13:51:19 UTC  

in some ways it seems like a natural progression of liberalism

2020-01-10 13:51:38 UTC  

Genocide is sometimes the optimal solution, if we had of genocided all the commies, lefties, and righties our society would be much healthier

2020-01-10 13:51:39 UTC  

many old liberals went to the extent of advocating against capitalism on the basis that it interfered with liberty

2020-01-10 13:51:59 UTC  

ie advocating for restrictions in the economic sphere to preserve a greater sum of liberty

2020-01-10 13:52:10 UTC  

moving to civil society seems like a natural progression to me

2020-01-10 13:52:10 UTC  

there you go... storin has a dumbass opinion... he is free to share it

2020-01-10 13:52:22 UTC  

My dumbass opinion is correct <:SmugPepe:510408646807519233>

2020-01-10 13:52:39 UTC  

Murder all the insane people

2020-01-10 13:53:09 UTC  

see... he's not hurting anyone by voicing his opinion

2020-01-10 13:53:33 UTC  

Its not a call to action.... yet.... <:SmugPepe:510408646807519233>

2020-01-10 13:53:36 UTC  

Just a suggestion

2020-01-10 13:53:39 UTC  

are you seriously suggesting it would be the liberal thing to do, to arrest storin now?

2020-01-10 13:54:16 UTC  

aRreSt mE????

2020-01-10 13:54:27 UTC  

<:bootlet:595693013754314752>

2020-01-10 13:54:41 UTC  

that does not sound like a liberal society to me

2020-01-10 13:54:53 UTC  

maybe, though this would be a particularly extreme example

2020-01-10 13:55:14 UTC  

dank got arrested for less

2020-01-10 13:55:16 UTC  

You are going to the camps as well A-rab

2020-01-10 13:55:20 UTC  

<:PepeLaugh:565528391336329216>

2020-01-10 13:56:01 UTC  

it just seems like liberalism enforced on a cultural level to me

2020-01-10 13:56:18 UTC  

cultural memes that interfere with a liberal conception of man are suppressed

2020-01-10 13:57:28 UTC  

thats the issue, you start moving away from the individual and start talking about groups and culture as a whole

2020-01-10 13:57:34 UTC  

Tribalism

2020-01-10 13:57:51 UTC  

Where you do something someone doesn't like and thei tribe gets to rape your daughter as compensation

2020-01-10 13:58:01 UTC  

I seen it in Africa, do you really want it <:SmugPepe:510408646807519233>

2020-01-10 13:58:01 UTC  

but the idea is that these norms lead to a move away from treating people as individuals