Murder all the insane people

see... he's not hurting anyone by voicing his opinion

Its not a call to action.... yet.... <:SmugPepe:510408646807519233>

Just a suggestion

are you seriously suggesting it would be the liberal thing to do, to arrest storin now?

aRreSt mE????

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that does not sound like a liberal society to me

maybe, though this would be a particularly extreme example

dank got arrested for less

You are going to the camps as well A-rab

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it just seems like liberalism enforced on a cultural level to me

cultural memes that interfere with a liberal conception of man are suppressed

thats the issue, you start moving away from the individual and start talking about groups and culture as a whole

Tribalism

Where you do something someone doesn't like and thei tribe gets to rape your daughter as compensation

I seen it in Africa, do you really want it <:SmugPepe:510408646807519233>

but the idea is that these norms lead to a move away from treating people as individuals

if you allow "racism" to propagate then that will lead to a less "individualistic" society

right, but the way you address that is not in a group manner.. its individualistic... and everyone is innocent until proven guilty

and if you're operating off of the presumption that there are no meaningful differences between the races or sexes or whatever then these sorts of things become a lot more problematic in this regard

sure it's individualistic in that you prosecute individuals for contributing to this

i mean don't get me wrong, i can see why liberals who are very focused on state power would see this as anti-liberal

and I would argue, an individual going on a rant about white people is not arrest worthy

https://www.rt.com/uk/477855-whitemoor-prison-officers-attacked/ <:monkaW:587411995616083968>

but from where i'm sitting it almost seems like liberalism manifested in a religious form

not really... there is no faith involved

rather than being focused on the tension between the autonomy of the individual and the power of the state the focus is on maintaining a culture conducive to a liberal conception of man

the only faith needed... is when people are arrested for saying "racist" things... you need to have faith in what their intent was

that goes for any crime where intent is a factor

intent can be proven tho... if say a murder occurs, and they find plans, emails, etc of the murder before it happened

i don't think that's needed to prove intent in a court of law

otherwise i think a lot more homicides would be tried as manslaughter cases

of course you need to prove intent in a murder case

yeah but that level of evidence isn't needed to prove intent

yeah you can prove intent in many ways... thats my point

but you wouldnt just go on faith

you still need "some" evidence

okay

how is that any different for hate speech cases