Message from @cheiften98

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2020-01-10 18:33:23 UTC  

She was the one that reigned in the overwhelming power of the trade unions, that had been responsible for choking UK industry throughout the 60s and 70s

2020-01-10 18:34:50 UTC  

Neither the poll tax nor the council tax that replaced it are terribly fair

2020-01-10 18:34:58 UTC  

I doubt it @Crafty

2020-01-10 18:35:21 UTC  

The most that could happen would be a reunification of Ireland and even that is unlikely

2020-01-10 18:35:40 UTC  

Scotland can't leave because they aren't getting a referendum and Wales doesn't want to

2020-01-10 18:35:49 UTC  

interesting

2020-01-10 18:36:26 UTC  

There was 2 recessions under her some article said. Recessions arn't because of political party tho. Markets do what markets wanna do.

2020-01-10 18:36:51 UTC  

government policy affects markets, therefore can affect recessions

2020-01-10 18:37:11 UTC  

can affect it a little.

2020-01-10 18:37:15 UTC  

but generally people don't factor in the lag between policy and effect

2020-01-10 18:37:29 UTC  

Its like the 08 recession and the www recession

2020-01-10 18:37:55 UTC  

08 recession was definitely due to, and exacerbated by government policy

2020-01-10 18:38:11 UTC  

Possibly Clinton telling banks to give out more loans to minorities could of caused it but it mostly the Banks fault.

2020-01-10 18:38:18 UTC  

no, not really

2020-01-10 18:38:32 UTC  

the cause hasn't been fixed yet

2020-01-10 18:38:50 UTC  

Thats one of them from what ive read.

2020-01-10 18:39:06 UTC  

it's an exacerbating factor

2020-01-10 18:39:52 UTC  

bank are allowed to create money out of thin air in order to lend to people for profit -tha amount they are allowed to lend is proportional to the size of their assets (historically "deposits") - called fractional reserve banking

2020-01-10 18:40:25 UTC  

poor regulation meant banks "bundled up" existing loans into products they could then trade, and stick on their balance sheets as asssets

2020-01-10 18:40:43 UTC  

bonds isnt it?

2020-01-10 18:40:52 UTC  

they were tiers of bonds they sold.

2020-01-10 18:40:59 UTC  

It was that sort of thing that caused the recession since these instruments grotesquely inflated their "asset" value, and allowed them to essentially loan out money they didn't have

2020-01-10 18:41:23 UTC  

bonds are a form of loan

2020-01-10 18:41:52 UTC  

They were selling the bonds that were fomr people who had bad credit. Something like that.

2020-01-10 18:42:16 UTC  

don't think "bond" is the appropriate term, but essentially yes

2020-01-10 18:42:21 UTC  

Ive seen the Big Short.

2020-01-10 18:42:25 UTC  

xD

2020-01-10 18:42:52 UTC  

Bottom line is, when the loans go bad, huge losses are incurred because it has a magnifying effect through the system

2020-01-10 18:43:29 UTC  

We're now at the point where banks don't need depositors to make loans or make money

2020-01-10 18:43:32 UTC  

And that's a problem

2020-01-10 18:44:12 UTC  

That doesnt sound good.

2020-01-10 18:44:28 UTC  

There will be a recession in the next 12 months I think.

2020-01-10 18:44:36 UTC  

where?

2020-01-10 18:44:48 UTC  

They usually happen every 8 years

2020-01-10 18:45:19 UTC  

The markets have dipped a bit but they keep going up. They keep testing it so If that keeps happening it will eventually happen.

2020-01-10 18:45:21 UTC  

If there's a recession in the next 12 months, it'll be brexit-related. But I doubt there will be

2020-01-10 18:45:49 UTC  

I mean mostly NA recession.

2020-01-10 18:45:55 UTC  

But that would affect UK too.

2020-01-10 18:47:17 UTC  

The media will try to Blame Trump or Boris. It wont be tho.

2020-01-10 18:47:30 UTC  

Why would you think there'll be a recession in america?