Message from @Puggums

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2020-01-26 14:45:34 UTC  

now who's stuck in 1d politics?

2020-01-26 14:48:22 UTC  

oh yeah, and China's Communist Party is centre-left by Kunarian's definition of centre-left

2020-01-26 14:49:46 UTC  

in china they would be the center :^)

2020-01-26 14:49:52 UTC  

precisely

2020-01-26 14:52:08 UTC  

it would be difficult to compare the ccp to western parties

2020-01-26 14:52:20 UTC  

in many ways they embody what the traditional right embodied more

2020-01-26 14:53:12 UTC  

defining left/right or characterising elements of ideology by how many people voted for them is retarded for that reason (among others)

2020-01-26 14:53:39 UTC  

They guy could have used the term "left of centre" and still be on solid ground

2020-01-26 14:53:47 UTC  

but "centre-left" is a specific term with specific meaning

2020-01-26 14:53:52 UTC  

it doesn't mean UK labour party

2020-01-26 14:55:45 UTC  

why do you say that

2020-01-26 14:55:50 UTC  

what

2020-01-26 14:55:59 UTC  

that is doesn't apply to the uk labour party

2020-01-26 14:56:05 UTC  

they're not centre-left

2020-01-26 14:56:16 UTC  

well why do you say that

2020-01-26 14:57:00 UTC  

i say they're not centre-left because the gravitation centre of their influencers and policies and their ideology is not centre-left, it's moderate-to-far left

2020-01-26 14:57:10 UTC  

socialism isn't a centre-left ideology

2020-01-26 14:57:18 UTC  

cultural marxism isn't a centre-left ideology

2020-01-26 14:57:35 UTC  

on what basis are you saying that these things are not center left

2020-01-26 14:57:59 UTC  

200 years of accepted modern political science

2020-01-26 14:58:11 UTC  

'accepted' is ad populum

2020-01-26 14:58:18 UTC  

isn't the labor party socdem?

2020-01-26 14:58:25 UTC  

that's generally seen as being "center left"

2020-01-26 14:58:26 UTC  

no

2020-01-26 14:58:30 UTC  

it used to be

2020-01-26 14:58:39 UTC  

i mean compared to the traditional right pretty much every party in the uk is extremely far left

2020-01-26 14:58:50 UTC  

there isn't a traditional right party int he uk

2020-01-26 14:59:01 UTC  

other than maybe the bnp who would only be moderately left

2020-01-26 14:59:46 UTC  

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2020-01-26 15:21:01 UTC  

I'm a centrist

2020-01-26 15:21:13 UTC  

I take from both extremes 💪

2020-01-26 15:23:57 UTC  

The right is defined by rejecting equality and the left is defined by accepting equality

2020-01-26 15:25:10 UTC  

define equality

2020-01-26 15:36:23 UTC  

labour

2020-01-26 15:37:17 UTC  

https://youtu.be/wslxvCDgEdM my thoughts on the matter

2020-01-26 15:40:28 UTC  

If you don't understand the meaning of equality then the definition would be worthless on you

2020-01-26 15:52:13 UTC  

Depends on the context it's being used

2020-01-26 15:52:16 UTC  

I'm a Traditional Libertarian

2020-01-26 15:52:21 UTC  

inequality and competition must co-exist

2020-01-26 15:52:28 UTC  

There's only any confusion because of progressive linguistic dishonesty