so all we can say with certainty is that the current system is flawed

I mean if you're proposing a system that would cut money from people then yeah I feel like I can say it would be worse

except it doesnt

But it would

it imposes extra taxes on the middle and top

Except those wouldn't work because taxes aren't just a lever with infinite money

yes, it's a system of diminishing returns

UBI of £130 a week for all adults would cost £350bn a year

£80bn can be recouped by scrapping the tax-free allowance

lol

raising taxes on the poorest

nice

Current welfare budget excluding housing benefit and social care, 200bn

so you're only 70bn short

see this is the problem with your system

the poorest don't pay income tax

you're having to cut money to the poorest

to make it work

for people on minimum wage, ubi will give them far more money than they'd lose

tax-free allowance going would mean the poorest paying tax on all their earnings below 12500

yes

lol

nobody would lose more than 2500 from the tax allowance loss

And my system would give them more without fucking with taxes or cutting money to the disabled

your system doesn't do anything to fix the problem

lol

Also £130 UBI would literally kill people

UC is more generous than that to people who need it

Lets do the whole household thing

comparison for your system

UC isn't

It is

UC is £90 a week

No it's much more

Let me demonstrate

And lets see how many people die from your policy

The poor of course

You realise £130 is more than £90, right?

You realise you can't add

Point out the mathematics error

You're not adding UC together