Message from @Kunarian

Discord ID: 671866825063268381


2020-01-28 23:55:28 UTC  

see this is the problem with your system

2020-01-28 23:55:37 UTC  

the poorest don't pay income tax

2020-01-28 23:55:38 UTC  

you're having to cut money to the poorest

2020-01-28 23:55:40 UTC  

to make it work

2020-01-28 23:56:03 UTC  

for people on minimum wage, ubi will give them far more money than they'd lose

2020-01-28 23:56:03 UTC  

tax-free allowance going would mean the poorest paying tax on all their earnings below 12500

2020-01-28 23:56:07 UTC  

yes

2020-01-28 23:56:09 UTC  

lol

2020-01-28 23:56:28 UTC  

nobody would lose more than 2500 from the tax allowance loss

2020-01-28 23:56:28 UTC  

And my system would give them more without fucking with taxes or cutting money to the disabled

2020-01-28 23:56:37 UTC  

your system doesn't do anything to fix the problem

2020-01-28 23:56:41 UTC  

lol

2020-01-28 23:57:00 UTC  

Also £130 UBI would literally kill people

2020-01-28 23:57:20 UTC  

UC is more generous than that to people who need it

2020-01-28 23:58:00 UTC  

Lets do the whole household thing

2020-01-28 23:58:05 UTC  

comparison for your system

2020-01-28 23:58:18 UTC  

UC isn't

2020-01-28 23:58:31 UTC  

It is

2020-01-28 23:58:43 UTC  

UC is £90 a week

2020-01-28 23:58:49 UTC  

No it's much more

2020-01-28 23:58:53 UTC  

Let me demonstrate

2020-01-28 23:59:01 UTC  

And lets see how many people die from your policy

2020-01-28 23:59:05 UTC  

The poor of course

2020-01-28 23:59:20 UTC  

You realise £130 is more than £90, right?

2020-01-28 23:59:29 UTC  

You realise you can't add

2020-01-28 23:59:43 UTC  

Point out the mathematics error

2020-01-28 23:59:52 UTC  

You're not adding UC together

2020-01-29 00:00:02 UTC  

you're taking one element and not adding any others

2020-01-29 00:00:05 UTC  

ignorantly

2020-01-29 00:00:09 UTC  

Oh, it's worse, UC is only £72 a week

2020-01-29 00:00:11 UTC  

You're right

2020-01-29 00:00:15 UTC  

Hah

2020-01-29 00:00:17 UTC  

we'll see

2020-01-29 00:00:30 UTC  

Most adults don't have kids

2020-01-29 00:01:09 UTC  

But if kids are the hill you want to die on, then sure, extend UBI to children at a reduced rate

2020-01-29 00:01:14 UTC  

Nah

2020-01-29 00:01:17 UTC  

it's worse than that

2020-01-29 00:01:43 UTC  

Why don't they just take down the union flag and just fly the French flag

2020-01-29 00:03:02 UTC  

PAying UBI to parents for their kids at current UC rate will cost £40bn a year

2020-01-29 00:04:31 UTC  

We're in unaffordable territory at this point