Message from @TheCaledonian
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called it
Well done you
Nationalism is by definition ethnic
no
only in the sense that ethnicity is evolutionary in nature, caledonian
I disagree that ethno nationalism is necessary
Civic nationalism is very degenerate as it *degenerates* the position and influence of the founding stock through tame immigration laws and inability to combat cultural degeneracy
Semantic debates are boring
Get to the meat
Conservative liberalism is enough
lol, ethreen would breed himself out of existence
Save me the fluff
that implies that the founding stock is inherently worth saving or better than others
It is
Where does it say civic nationalism encourages mass immigration?
it may be, puggums
which is axiomatically not true
You're still putting your own nation first
it doesn't, hopix
If something undermines your nation, you stop it
Well if that's the case its shit then
says who?
Lmao
Lmao what
civic nationalism would imply, given you already -had- mass immigration, that they are assimilated
it doesn't imply you should -have- mass immigration
Mate
I see
civic nationalism doesn't imply assimilation
"that implies that the founding stock is inherently worth saving or better than others"
No one is saying that any group is better then another, we're just saying that a community with a united heritage has the right to exist in the form of a nation
Well I dont support mass deportation so I guess I'm civic nationalist
a nationstate isnt defined by the genetic make up of its people only "its people"
theres no inbuilt right
however, there is signficant benefit to be found in having your nation state broadly homegenous, ethnically, and making any change very slow
genetic makeup is one part of what makes a nation
in the same sens you could say a nation has the right to change its people
Yes so race and culture are linked
yes
No the nation cannot change it's people
but it is