Message from @Puggums

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2020-02-12 13:16:44 UTC  

Is regular nationalism degenerate?

2020-02-12 13:16:53 UTC  

What is regular nationalism

2020-02-12 13:16:54 UTC  

regular as in civic?

2020-02-12 13:16:55 UTC  

regular nationalism is ethnonationalism

2020-02-12 13:16:56 UTC  

not by itself, hopix

2020-02-12 13:16:57 UTC  

probably

2020-02-12 13:17:09 UTC  

Civic Nationalism is decadent, yes

2020-02-12 13:17:09 UTC  

Civic i I think

2020-02-12 13:17:19 UTC  

called it

2020-02-12 13:17:28 UTC  

Well done you

2020-02-12 13:17:31 UTC  

Nationalism is by definition ethnic

2020-02-12 13:17:36 UTC  

no

2020-02-12 13:17:55 UTC  

only in the sense that ethnicity is evolutionary in nature, caledonian

2020-02-12 13:18:05 UTC  

I disagree that ethno nationalism is necessary

2020-02-12 13:18:06 UTC  

Civic nationalism is very degenerate as it *degenerates* the position and influence of the founding stock through tame immigration laws and inability to combat cultural degeneracy

2020-02-12 13:18:18 UTC  

Semantic debates are boring

2020-02-12 13:18:20 UTC  

Get to the meat

2020-02-12 13:18:21 UTC  

Conservative liberalism is enough

2020-02-12 13:18:22 UTC  

lol, ethreen would breed himself out of existence

2020-02-12 13:18:23 UTC  

Save me the fluff

2020-02-12 13:19:00 UTC  

that implies that the founding stock is inherently worth saving or better than others

2020-02-12 13:19:07 UTC  

It is

2020-02-12 13:19:08 UTC  

Where does it say civic nationalism encourages mass immigration?

2020-02-12 13:19:11 UTC  

it may be, puggums

2020-02-12 13:19:15 UTC  

which is axiomatically not true

2020-02-12 13:19:19 UTC  

You're still putting your own nation first

2020-02-12 13:19:29 UTC  

it doesn't, hopix

2020-02-12 13:19:31 UTC  

If something undermines your nation, you stop it

2020-02-12 13:19:36 UTC  

Civic Nationalism is for mass assimilation of aliens

2020-02-12 13:19:43 UTC  

Well if that's the case its shit then

2020-02-12 13:19:44 UTC  

says who?

2020-02-12 13:19:47 UTC  

Lmao

2020-02-12 13:20:09 UTC  

Lmao what

2020-02-12 13:20:12 UTC  

civic nationalism would imply, given you already -had- mass immigration, that they are assimilated

2020-02-12 13:20:17 UTC  

it doesn't imply you should -have- mass immigration

2020-02-12 13:20:22 UTC  

Mate

2020-02-12 13:20:26 UTC  

I see

2020-02-12 13:20:36 UTC  

civic nationalism doesn't imply assimilation

2020-02-12 13:20:37 UTC  

"that implies that the founding stock is inherently worth saving or better than others"

No one is saying that any group is better then another, we're just saying that a community with a united heritage has the right to exist in the form of a nation

2020-02-12 13:20:46 UTC  

Well I dont support mass deportation so I guess I'm civic nationalist

2020-02-12 13:20:54 UTC  

a nationstate isnt defined by the genetic make up of its people only "its people"