Well I dont support mass deportation so I guess I'm civic nationalist

a nationstate isnt defined by the genetic make up of its people only "its people"

theres no inbuilt right

however, there is signficant benefit to be found in having your nation state broadly homegenous, ethnically, and making any change very slow

genetic makeup is one part of what makes a nation

in the same sens you could say a nation has the right to change its people

Yes so race and culture are linked

yes

No the nation cannot change it's people

but it is

if a nation "changed" it's people it wouldn't be the same nation anymore lmao

Imagine calling yourself "the caledonian" and trying to pontificate about superior races

thats a theseus ship argument

...and as a result it's destroying the nation

imagine replacing ethnic French people with ethnic Turks and then calling France French

Because the core ethnos are the root

if they eat frogs legs and make baguettes then fine

As long as it says so in teh corporate charter yer gud

nations are evolutionary - france isn't what france was 500 years ago

the problem is when you change it via revolutionary measures

dumping millions of ethnic turks in france is revolutionary, not evolutioanry

^

if you bring them i nfast enough to exclude assimilation of course

Again a nation is defined by a shared ethnic heritage, that's literally what nation means

no wrong

thats not what defines a nation

definitely not solely

British people don't have a shared ethnic heritage, they have a variety of ethnic heritages

what about a conquered people

ytoud share a heritage with them

You could claim they share a POOL of shared ethnic heritage and a shared history

and theyd live in your borders

@Ethreen42 I am saying the British are best

Ahh shit, I agree with Leohte

```nation (n.)
c. 1300, nacioun, "a race of people, large group of people with common ancestry and language," from Old French nacion "birth, rank; descendants, relatives; country, homeland" (12c.) and directly from Latin nationem (nominative natio) "birth, origin; breed, stock, kind, species; race of people, tribe," literally "that which has been born," from natus, past participle of nasci "be born" (Old Latin gnasci), from PIE root *gene- "give birth, beget," with derivatives referring to procreation and familial and tribal groups.

The word is used in English in a broad sense, "a race of people an aggregation of persons of the same ethnic family and speaking the same language," and also in the narrower sense, "a political society composed of a government and subjects or citizens and constituting a political unit; an organized community inhabiting a defined territory within which its sovereignty is exercised."```

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@Eccles We've been over this, the british have a commonality in heritage as any genomic company can recognise

there is no assimilating turks

25-40% Saxon and the rest is ancient Celt

that is not a thing that exists

That is the typical Englishman

Yes, and that commonality in genetics is largely a result of living in a pre-industrial pre-technological age