Message from @Puggums

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2020-02-12 13:22:35 UTC  

No the nation cannot change it's people

2020-02-12 13:22:44 UTC  

but it is

2020-02-12 13:22:48 UTC  

if a nation "changed" it's people it wouldn't be the same nation anymore lmao

2020-02-12 13:22:54 UTC  

Imagine calling yourself "the caledonian" and trying to pontificate about superior races

2020-02-12 13:22:59 UTC  

thats a theseus ship argument

2020-02-12 13:23:09 UTC  

...and as a result it's destroying the nation

2020-02-12 13:23:12 UTC  

imagine replacing ethnic French people with ethnic Turks and then calling France French

2020-02-12 13:23:23 UTC  

Because the core ethnos are the root

2020-02-12 13:23:34 UTC  

if they eat frogs legs and make baguettes then fine

2020-02-12 13:23:38 UTC  

As long as it says so in teh corporate charter yer gud

2020-02-12 13:23:54 UTC  

nations are evolutionary - france isn't what france was 500 years ago

2020-02-12 13:24:05 UTC  

the problem is when you change it via revolutionary measures

2020-02-12 13:24:17 UTC  

dumping millions of ethnic turks in france is revolutionary, not evolutioanry

2020-02-12 13:24:23 UTC  

^

2020-02-12 13:24:39 UTC  

if you bring them i nfast enough to exclude assimilation of course

2020-02-12 13:25:03 UTC  

Again a nation is defined by a shared ethnic heritage, that's literally what nation means

2020-02-12 13:25:11 UTC  

no wrong

2020-02-12 13:25:16 UTC  

thats not what defines a nation

2020-02-12 13:25:19 UTC  

definitely not solely

2020-02-12 13:25:39 UTC  

British people don't have a shared ethnic heritage, they have a variety of ethnic heritages

2020-02-12 13:25:46 UTC  

what about a conquered people

2020-02-12 13:25:50 UTC  

ytoud share a heritage with them

2020-02-12 13:25:59 UTC  

You could claim they share a POOL of shared ethnic heritage and a shared history

2020-02-12 13:26:02 UTC  

and theyd live in your borders

2020-02-12 13:26:20 UTC  

@Ethreen42 I am saying the British are best

2020-02-12 13:26:29 UTC  

Ahh shit, I agree with Leohte

2020-02-12 13:26:43 UTC  

```nation (n.)
c. 1300, nacioun, "a race of people, large group of people with common ancestry and language," from Old French nacion "birth, rank; descendants, relatives; country, homeland" (12c.) and directly from Latin nationem (nominative natio) "birth, origin; breed, stock, kind, species; race of people, tribe," literally "that which has been born," from natus, past participle of nasci "be born" (Old Latin gnasci), from PIE root *gene- "give birth, beget," with derivatives referring to procreation and familial and tribal groups.

The word is used in English in a broad sense, "a race of people an aggregation of persons of the same ethnic family and speaking the same language," and also in the narrower sense, "a political society composed of a government and subjects or citizens and constituting a political unit; an organized community inhabiting a defined territory within which its sovereignty is exercised."```

<https://www.etymonline.com/word/nation>

2020-02-12 13:26:47 UTC  

@Eccles We've been over this, the british have a commonality in heritage as any genomic company can recognise

2020-02-12 13:27:06 UTC  

there is no assimilating turks

2020-02-12 13:27:13 UTC  

25-40% Saxon and the rest is ancient Celt

2020-02-12 13:27:13 UTC  

that is not a thing that exists

2020-02-12 13:27:20 UTC  

That is the typical Englishman

2020-02-12 13:27:29 UTC  

Yes, and that commonality in genetics is largely a result of living in a pre-industrial pre-technological age

2020-02-12 13:27:43 UTC  

The notion of race will fuzz over time going forward

2020-02-12 13:27:43 UTC  

How does that relate to its existence?

2020-02-12 13:27:51 UTC  

"a political society composed of a government and subjects or citizens and constituting a political unit; an organized community inhabiting a defined territory within which its sovereignty is exercised."

2020-02-12 13:28:01 UTC  

Where did the celts come from originally?

2020-02-12 13:28:18 UTC  

Africa, Hopix

2020-02-12 13:28:23 UTC  

Just like everyone else

2020-02-12 13:28:23 UTC  

They sprang out of the ground like potatos

2020-02-12 13:28:30 UTC  

You're all niggers - get over it